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Len: I are also in the process of exploring these kind of processes with other groups like future capital and working group. 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:42.000 So me and I will be co-hosting attempt at something like this. 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:49.000 Tomorrow. it's actually a different part of the process But will lead to some poll planning and those working groups over the next couple of weeks. 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:53.000 So we kind of have different networks of energy merging together with them. 00:00:53.000 --> 00:01:02.000 With some massive potential and we're gonna have to explore all these these different relationships and develop shared maps. 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:19.000 So I wanted to try to introduce today a process called poll planning. and when we, when we launch large drawing ventures in the architecture, engineering, and construction industry that are too big for anyone organization to execute on an 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:28.000 isolation. We go through this poll planning process, and so you could imagine that lots of different people from lots of different expertise. 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:45.000 Come along could imagine the groups of you. you like electrical experts and the cost, creating structural experts and structural steel experts and earth moving experts and architects and engineers, and all the different specialties and each one comes 00:01:45.000 --> 00:02:03.000 to the table with a with a unique perspective on what needs to be done over a series of years, in order to accomplish the shared goal, and drawing on thousands of years of wisdom and building and construction and combining that with some 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:08.000 of the breakthroughs from lean and toyota production system and things like that. 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:22.000 The industry arrived at this process of backwards, planning that's kind of rooted in some of the lane practices and and the industry discovered that when you try to try to figure out how you're gonna accomplish something that's let's 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:27.000 say, gonna take 5 years and cost a half 1 billion dollars, or whatever to do. 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:40.000 If you start at the beginning, and try to work forward it's very difficult for the human mind to grapple through it, and you kind of end up wandering down a whole bunch of different processes and getting lost conversely we've discovered that if 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:56.000 you start at the end and really center into the shared intention, and then work your way backwards, descending 3 different levels of abstraction and relatively short amounts of time, you can come to to pretty pretty reasonable 00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:00.000 milestone based pathways to get to get to the goal. 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:08.000 So again, I don't know if this will work but i'm really grateful for you being here to take the time to kind of roll up our solution. 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:13.000 The last thing, maybe, before we just kind of roll up our sleeves and dive in is 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:24.000 People like Hank Cune are working with different groups, and even nations, on figuring out how to create shared visions for their future. 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:39.000 And so this this process that we're about to go through starts after a shared vision, has been created, and then really grapples with how to bring that shared vision into reality. 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.000 So Hank and I have just had small passing conversations on. 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:49.000 Okay, as we can be in these groups, really center in on what we want the future to look like, Then how do we backcast? 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:57.000 How do we pull, plan, and then get everybody aligned on a rough series of milestones to bring that into reality? 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:01.000 Time so before, before we dive in let's just roll around the room. 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:09.000 Just do, maybe a quick 1 min check in on How everyone's coming in any particular questions or curiosities. 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:17.000 You have a around the process, but let's just take maybe 60 s each, just for a quick check in how's your How's your heart, and soul? 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:31.000 Any any particular thing that's alive or inquiries around this project, and then we'll we'll dive in, and after about the 10 min that i'll take so let's see just to I guess model that i'm 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:35.000 coming, and 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:42.000 Balanced and full of potential there's so many streams of energy moving. 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:55.000 I feel like so greatful and feeling curious doing emergent i'm just really excited to see how we can we can merge these streams of energy together. 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.000 We bounce to you, for example, check in sure. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:06.000 My heart is good my soul. Well, I have planted our fashion. i'm right foot so half my soul was not doing so well. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:17.000 It's been pretty painful and really a drag after 2 years of lockdown to be stuck at home, not really being with a walk anywhere, or go out for any like the time. but i'll do what I can to 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:23.000 stay buoyant and informed, and getting in on checking on the zoom calls and checking with people. 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.000 And i'm really curious to learn more about what's going on here. 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:31.000 I've followed a little bit on the the text streams what's happening, but not a lot. 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:40.000 So i'm really here just at jordan's imitation yesterday, you know. hey? if you want to make it up to this call here, I am happy to see Milo again. 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.000 It's been a while, Michael. good to see you Hank as always, Jonathan. 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:50.000 We bet on one of our calls and Vincent, so I know a few folks here and just happy to be here. 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:55.000 Forest. 00:05:55.000 --> 00:06:01.000 Sure as as well. feeling good energized 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:08.000 The process sounds very exciting in terms of for me is something to learn in terms of both. 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:19.000 How it's been applied, and the rest so looking forward to that really and pleasure to see and meet you this way can briefly having watch many in the Ogm. 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:31.000 Messages and have that pleasure of reading. and I think, having met almost everybody else looking forward to Hank, get any more chance to connect it. 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:41.000 So i'll pass fantastic for us There you go. 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:45.000 Hi, everybody, and nice to meet all of you again? but ken You're in New York. 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:56.000 Can we learn more about you i'm coming in with excitement, because I was seeped in lean 6 sigma and process stuff my whole career? 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:03.000 So i'm curious to see how this all goes personally. I'm. i'm feeling like one of those Chinese artists, you know. 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:12.000 They have plates on sticks. I have a lot of plates going right now, but I still wanna be hearing. so. 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:21.000 Thanks so much for making the time. Marianne mila hi 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.000 Just the logistics question jordan I couldn't access the Mirror Board. 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:31.000 I have. we question access. Hi, everyone. I think I know a few of you can love me to see you again. 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:41.000 And Marianne and Forest, and I think we met hank together in another mapping exercise, and hello to everyone else. 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:57.000 I'm very tired i've had very few hours of sleep has been going on so far at the moment that very rapid rate, so I may not be able to stay longer than i'd like to so I have to leave 15 min. 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:05.000 To be Howard, and then hopefully, I can come back in an hour's time, and over to Johnson. 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:21.000 Thanks for that. This is gonna be great. I I declare it, Moliers, I pass it to 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:48.000 Alright, thank you. been watching this develop for 4 years. now it's Jordan and i'm looking forward to see the continued evolution development growth create spontaneous creative additions and the determined effort that all combined to make something 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.000 worse, and the people that i'm i'm i'm enjoying people. 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:58.000 So I come very happy to continue the process of meeting people and on a personal note. 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:10.000 I'm pondering How our involvements are connections are hopes, are dreams, Are history combined to create a sense of call. 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:16.000 The divine inspiration, the human interaction, the inspiration of others. 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:27.000 It all forms the sense of call in our lifetime at a point in my life where that has become important in a different way than it's been in in the younger years. 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:41.000 So I'm excited for that reason too, so let's pass it on to Michael 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:46.000 Michael may be away. will bounce to hang. Yeah, here? 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:54.000 Apologize I am less than in camera ready. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:10:01.000 But i'm gonna come on camera, anyway, just still running around and dealing with some stuff. 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:23.000 But I my my hard disk here my years third year and very excited about my come out of the session and and future sessions, and what's come out of pass sessions so great to see all the I 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:28.000 I will be here, even when you don't see my face you're looking. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:38.000 I'll pass you look beautiful and camera adding Michael thanks for 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:47.000 Well, I think I heard my name so let me say something i've been following this project since. 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:54.000 More or less beginning i'm very excited about what will come out of it. 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:05.000 I'm really like the way we are really expressed the the desire to create the sense of call in our lives. 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:14.000 So I know. towards that question marks and my question mark as well. 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:37.000 I've got a call in my life to be share with others i'll pass where to 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:53.000 Hey? Everyone I know most of you and nice sooner faces i'm just excited to see what yeah, what this format is, and what we can create together. because I know individually, all the people here are pretty incredible. 00:11:53.000 --> 00:12:00.000 So hopefully that there's an exponential what we do together for us. 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:08.000 Did you go yet? Thank you, Vincent. Oh, my missing, is it? 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:13.000 I think 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:23.000 I think I think we hit it. Anybody left out. Okay. uniform, all right. 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:30.000 Well, shall we dive let's let's develop a couple rules here. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:36.000 I'm gonna have So we have a few different things going here, and we have the chat. 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:41.000 We have a Hack Md. up and We have a mirror board up hack. Md. 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:50.000 Let's just do collaborative note taking the mirror board, and let us do mirroring, and the chat will let us do chatting and i'm not going to be able to watch all those 00:12:50.000 --> 00:13:04.000 simultaneously. So Jonathan, may I request your your help? and tending to the hack ndy and and just kind of doing some collaborative note taking through this Yup Okay, fantastic? 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.000 And then I see a few people in the mayor in the mirror. 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:12.000 Can Marianne etc. i'm sorry I just invite help and collaboration. 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:14.000 On i'm kind of filling out the marrow as we go. 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:26.000 It'll it'll be I think fairly intuitive so feel free to to kind of help and collaborate in the mirror will go live, and then would anybody like to volunteer to kind of help help watch the 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:41.000 chat, and just bring into the conversation at the right time anything that gets spoken out that that can need to enter the room 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:51.000 Sure. Okay, Okay, yeah let's have yeah Marianne. 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:55.000 Why don't You use your intuition just to kind of keep an eye on the chat, and if you see anything that doesn't get spoken? 00:13:55.000 --> 00:14:07.000 Just speak it out at the right time. beautiful Okay, great so I'm gonna try to balance explaining the process to a great enough a degree. 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:18.000 Let me share my screen. Here. 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:25.000 Okay, Great: Alright. So this is this is basic goal planning board. 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:43.000 And explain that how the how the process worked like I mentioned things in lean 6 sigma toy to quick production system, etc., rooted in this concept of poll systems as opposed to push systems on the the beauty 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:48.000 of whole systems, as they align with with lean philosophy. 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:59.000 And when when this check technology usually hits industries it usually discovers 60, 70, 80% waste. i'm. 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:04.000 So, for instance, the industry I came from construction when they started analyzing it through this lens. 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:12.000 They were looking at, you know, somewhere between 60 and 70% labor waste overall on an industry wide standard. 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:21.000 That's that's pretty common and my announcement and many other people smarter than us. 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:36.000 We might think that the human industry kind of the human system on planet Earth is also something like an 80 or 90% waste industry where the vast amount of activity that we're engaged in isn't actually producing you know throughput of what we 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:51.000 want. So this system works by attempting to align everybody on kind of the overarching vision and goal which will, which we'll start with up here on this large postit Note i'm gonna just pull in a quick proxy for 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:55.000 that that might be good enough for us to start with for the sake of time. 00:15:55.000 --> 00:16:04.000 And then you'll see over here on the left side of these board these descending elevations, 50,000. 30,000. 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:11.000 So those are basically meant as elevations or levels of abstraction. 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:18.000 And so you could imagine that if we're flying in an airplane over a field at 50,000 feet. 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:24.000 You see only kind of significant details, major cost geographic features. 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:39.000 And so it's just a very high level overview, and then you can imagine that if we drop down to 30,000 feet, the detail would start to fill itself in you'd see a little bit more drop down to 10,000 feet and then all the way 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:51.000 down at ground level you're you're right stuck in the weeds. right, and you can't see what you can see at 50,000 feet, and your surround is by an endless array of detail. 00:16:51.000 --> 00:17:12.000 So, of course, the whole planning process works by centering out to the the furthest distant vision or goal, and then working backwards at each level of abstraction and starting to fill in those various levels of resolution and 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:22.000 we'll we'll dive in just to the practice of it But what we're gonna do is we're gonna we'll spend maybe let's say 10 min or so just centering out on division, and tension 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:27.000 goal. we'll start at the 50,000 foot level and go okay. 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:41.000 If we were to. if we were to work in reverse and pick like 5 major miles stones that mark the way to the goal of the kind of world we want to live in what might those be and you'll get these big kind of 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:48.000 salient features of work, and then what you do is you then drop down to 30,000 feet, and we can zoom in right. 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:54.000 So if we had at this top level 5 levels, we could then zoom in to these 2 and go okay. 00:17:54.000 --> 00:18:02.000 And if we were to fill in and reverse 5 different features of work just between these 2, what would those be right? 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:15.000 See you then start focusing in on these blocks so after a couple after a couple levels, you'd have 5 with 5 build in between those and you'd have an approximate app of 25 milestones to get there. 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:21.000 If you then drop down to another level of analysis this and started filling those in you'd end up with the same thing. 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:30.000 So what you end up with is a more and more granular milestone based path, marking the way towards the goal. 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:35.000 Does that 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:40.000 Does that kind of broadly make sense? And are there any questions? 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:46.000 As I pause before we go into the next step Marianne. No, i'm good. that makes sense. 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:57.000 So everybody roughly tracking with the logic of how this works. And can you use the links again? 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:03.000 I can 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:08.000 Hi, Pete, Hey, Jordan, hey? All I can do it to Jordan. 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:12.000 I can schedule That'd. be great thanks and if you could grab the hack. 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:16.000 Md. Link as well, Jonathan, or very end up with great Just drop that one in. 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:32.000 Okay, beautiful. Okay. So I So everybody's got kind of the rough rough intuition for how this works, and and just to spend we I did a brief intro, but to to take 2 min just to visualize this with something that we could 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:46.000 imagine the kind of the kind of flow that we'll get into is the idea of Okay, if our if our intention is a house that's a suitable dwelling place for our family to flourish and we were to back 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:55.000 plan that right? We might say that the last with 5 major milestones, we might say that the last thing we did was place kind of the final furnitures and fixtures. 00:19:55.000 --> 00:20:02.000 It might say that before that we could place the furnitures and fixtures, we probably had a roof on it. 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:12.000 We might say that before we could put the roof on we had to have some something to put the roof on, so we had to build the walls before, that and what did we need before the walls were before we could put 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:16.000 walls up. We needed a foundation, and what did we need before? 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:22.000 The foundation. Well, before the foundation could go, we had to, you know, repair the earth, and make sure it was stable. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:25.000 And so then when you look at that and and forward you go. 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:36.000 Okay, Well, to build a house. We need to stay stabilized the earth, Then build the foundation, then build the walls, then put the roof on, then put everything inside the house right, and it's just a very simple. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:48.000 5 miles stone way to build a house, and then you start ding into deeper and deeper levels of granularity over to forest. 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.000 Sure, thank you, and thank you, so I guess mine is jumping up. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:21:11.000 I see you have the intention listed as work site earth, and if that's the And so I guess my first question is that the intention that these first 5 posters are about and then the question that kind of goes with that in 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:31.000 terms of clarification is, if I was thinking about work, site, earth, and humanity, and all that on it, then I start thinking about things like energy and water and food, and that seems to be a little but different than a house in terms of 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:39.000 tangibility. And so I just was seeking clarification about that. 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:42.000 Yeah, great. So so we'll go there next and I think it'll make sense. 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:46.000 But it. But if you were to develop a house in which you're family could flourish. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:54.000 You'd have to include in there water you have to include in their energy, and you'd have to include food in there right. 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:59.000 And so those those things, all that's kind of the beauty about this holistic view is it forces you to go. okay? 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:10.000 Well, we got this beautiful house constructed and we didn't pay attention to the water and the sanitation we're not going to flourish there so so very much Your intuition is right on track that every single thing required 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:16.000 to flourish. We will need to address in this plan, which gets which gets difficult. 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:25.000 But so okay, so. So I I corrected that statement to say what's our intention for work site, or and i'm gonna take a little short. 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:29.000 Okay, here, i'm gonna say I think i've talked enough with the people. 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:47.000 On this call to say that, you know if our intention is something like love we want for all the inhabitants of worksite earth to flourish, and that requires a whole set of things to happen right and instead of spending too, much time 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:53.000 on that today. i'm going to start with a rough crock see? that's already had you know billions of dollars of work and time. 00:22:53.000 --> 00:23:00.000 Go into it and have been agreed on by a 100 and 93 Nations and that's that's the Us. 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:09.000 Sdgs and i'm not saying these are the right ontology. but i'm just saying they've been agreed on by a vast swath of humanity. so i'm just gonna kind of read these out right and 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:19.000 So if if we're creating our intention 108, 80, 93 nations have said something like you know, we want no poverty. 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:26.000 We want no hunger, we want health and well-being. 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:38.000 Would wine, quality, education. We want gender equality, like cleaning, water and sanitation. 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:45.000 We want affordable and clean energy so this is sorry good that for us. 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:55.000 We've already hit your at your nodes we want meaningful work and growth. 00:23:55.000 --> 00:24:21.000 We'll have to find what that means industry, innovation, and infrastructure done in a way that helps and not harms reduced inequality, sustainable slash, regenerative cities and community please responsible 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:28.000 consumption and production 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:58.000 Regenerative living system, slash climate, let's say flourishing life below water, flourishing life on land, piece justice, strong institutions and partnerships and cooperation 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:06.000 To bring this into reality. Okay. So so this you can kind of reflect on this any way we want. 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:22.000 But let's talk about maybe there's also some things here like like no corruption and injustice whatever. 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.000 So we can kind of go through this but I but it's just an intuition. 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:30.000 So what is there anything substantially that's missing here? 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:43.000 Let's just take 5 min and and kind of center in when we, when we reflect on something like this what's flowing from the heart of love, the elimination of the things that cause unnecessary suffering and 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:54.000 injustice and the establishment of the things that are needed for flourishing life in any community, so anything any signature, gaps or flaws. 00:25:54.000 --> 00:26:00.000 And kind of the intention that we're setting here Marianne. 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:05.000 Yeah, it feels like i mean you've kind of said it. but I don't know if we should emphasize it. 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:11.000 So no dominion over nature, no extraction. no exploitation, no extinction, no colonization like I don't know if you need to emphasize that. 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:20.000 But we are so into going that way. the way the system is set up now, so I don't know my thoughts. Yeah, So let's say no extraction exploitation. 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:27.000 Human system, realigned and re integrated with living system. 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:31.000 Something like that. Is that kind of cover that concerned Marianne. 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:38.000 Okay, wendy What turns up? having written a paper around one of them. 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:46.000 Poverty and a state in the Us. What turns up when your tasks to do with one properly, and you let people talk enough. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:53.000 The other ones just turn up, anyway. So once you just start on one, the others almost always turn up. 00:26:53.000 --> 00:27:04.000 Well, once you've got the thing is if you try and do all of them at once. It doesn't work you actually have to start with one and let them sort of go out and join them up. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:09.000 And that was what I ended up having to do i'm thinking This is nothing about the environment. 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:20.000 But I looked in there, and there were those stories about cars and houses, and all sorts of things that were unnoticed, starting points for other aspects of the problem. 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:26.000 So you can have confidence that you start with one that's meaningful, and the others turn up is my point. 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:39.000 As well. so it's how you approach it not not expecting trying to do all at once, because that just doesn't work You start with one, and they notice the others and get them as spinning plates around the initial 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.000 one. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:28:09.000 Forest. Yeah. actually building directly on what wendy was just saying, i'm wondering if there isn't something that is kind of over arching over the top of this which is essentially a systems view of life and basically what the systems view of life 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:17.000 means is the systems thinking portion is that we're focused on relationships. 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:33.000 Text and the patterns and then in terms of what the intrinsic nature of life is that life is constantly creating and maintaining communities. 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:52.000 It's inherently intelligent it's inherently creative. And it's inherently regenerative, and that basically within that 20 or 30 words you actually have an overarching thing that that validates 00:28:52.000 --> 00:29:01.000 what Wendy was just saying, which is sense. Every thing is in interdependent and interconnected, depending on where you start, you can get to anywhere. 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:08.000 But this framework. Okay, great. So so yeah, we can. 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:22.000 We can incorporate that by saying something like a heart of love would want the systems view human system reintegrated in the living system within apparently right related and regenerative overall overall. 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.000 Elemental. So I think we're we're aligned there. 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:41.000 Yeah. So also building on Wendy and Forest. this the overarching title for me is redesigning a meaningful life, because so that's life to forest this point. 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.000 But I also would like to invite us to consider how we phrase this. 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:50.000 I know the un's sdg talks about no hunger. 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:58.000 You know how about making that internality rather than problem solving for hunger? 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:08.000 So in this case it would be what if every single person what's fed? 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:13.000 What if every single person had well-being instead of fixing her? 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:30.000 Okay. It was a completely different shift in perspective than it allows vast creativity in in how to achieve that 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:35.000 Thanks for that. Yeah. So we could start to refrain those that's really helpful. 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:45.000 So we could say, you know what, if every person was fed had well being had the opportunity to develop into the port of their potential and flourish was equal before society and law. 00:30:45.000 --> 00:31:02.000 Bye out abundant access to clean water and sanitation energy. 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:12.000 Just to add to that Jordan basically coming from the systems view of abundance rather than scarcity. Yes, exactly. 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:23.000 Okay, So I I I agree. And I think there was lots of hands going up of reframing this in terms of potentially potentiality as opposed to problem solving 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:27.000 So the 2 2 ways to to get up. But thank you, Mike. 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:34.000 Bill, and then Wendy 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:49.000 Okay, thanks. So as i'm cause I look at the goals, you know, we could say Yes, we embrace the overarching let's do everything. 00:31:49.000 --> 00:32:09.000 And they're very good goals right but I think What for us is return referred to what Mila kind of stated is that not only can we reframe the in positive terms, but I think we have to look at the 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:18.000 Cytoquon nod of the goals if people don't work together in partnership and combine their efforts. 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:25.000 None of this can happen. So it seems to me that Number 19, or whatever is down on the bottom. 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.000 Here there was a partnership for the goals I saw in. 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.000 You see that in the Wikipedia list, too? 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:37.000 The bottom. One is partnership for the goal if we don't develop a mechanism. 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:51.000 2 partner and bring him the human intelligence and creativity. and what forest is talking about, and the positive outlook that meal is referring to, and what we would all start talking about. 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:56.000 We would be talking about things that are needed in a combined effort. 00:32:56.000 --> 00:33:10.000 So kind of rolling into it. Lionsburg has been built to be, and that is, an aggregating of human creativity without individual ownership. 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:25.000 Of that stewardship owned product to actually make that community effort, a reality that seems to me a very reachable goal in what we're doing even here today. 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:35.000 In this exercise. Thanks, Bill. Okay, Wendy 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:40.000 Yeah. I think everything I wanted to say is already has just been said. 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:47.000 So I just wanna put an approximation point on neil's share about reframing things positively. 00:33:47.000 --> 00:34:03.000 There's just so much behind that in terms of how we then ask questions, and what kind of problems we're trying to solve. and it just right from the beginning frames things in a way that sets us on a different path of thinking 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:10.000 and problem solving. So I really appreciate that. she threw that in there, and I just wanted to make sure we we hold on to it tightly. 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:19.000 It it really will it's like setting the golf ball on the tea, and hitting it slightly differently in the long term. 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:25.000 It's gonna have a huge effect. so thanks neil for that Jordan I just want to add what what can hold with it. 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:30.000 To care for the children of all species but all time maybe that'll cover. 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:37.000 I'm gonna yeah, I said, all generations of life if there yeah, all species or all time. 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:51.000 Okay, great. So So that was great. So we just, you know, we just did 2 decades worth of work, and in 20 min, right? And so we we have this preframing of general understanding of the problems in these inherent in any 00:34:51.000 --> 00:35:04.000 of community of life. Bill brought in that we need unified and incorporated quite of action towards Milas redesigning, meaningful and abundant life for all Theelia to be live but to do that sorry 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:14.000 that's rooted in love for all. generations of life for all species in all time, through a systems view that reintegrates the human system with the living system. 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:20.000 And Harrison as part of that is right relationship and regeneration across time and space. 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:33.000 And then we can frame our what if that I won't I won't maybe take time to do them all right here about what, if every person was better, everybody presented that well-being every person had the opportunity to develop into 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.000 the fullness of their potential and flourish. What if the water was cleaning? 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:45.000 What if the land was plain? What if we, if every community of life had what it needed to advance towards its potential and flourish? 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:51.000 Okay, So so we can. We can finish converting this. 00:35:51.000 --> 00:36:02.000 But how is everybody feeling like, However, you wanna phrase it, but spiritually, energetically like, Is there? reasonably strong field being held here. Bill. Hello, welcome! 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:05.000 Nice to see you sorry to be late, and I apologize in advance. 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:13.000 We have to leave top of the hour. I would invite us not to have any negative phrase in in this thing. 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.000 So the no corruption and no extraction. 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.000 Just take those out that affirm those in the positive don't state the negatives. 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:28.000 Yeah, Thank you. resting the positive, beautiful love it. Thank you. 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:34.000 Well restate is positive. we're just take them out because there's the the the whole mood of everything else is very different than that. 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:48.000 That's all just transparent and accountable organizations and institutions. 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:52.000 Something like that, maybe. What could I ask a question? And maybe you said this before I got here? 00:36:52.000 --> 00:37:04.000 There are 2 ways to do this kind of thing. One is very, very high level, Mega statement that encompasses everything, and the other is the laundry list of everything that we care about. 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:18.000 And I think the second way is risky I agree gill What's your what's your w We took a stab towards some of these high level statements? But you you made one in one of our other meetings? 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:31.000 Do you want to throw out here? Well, i've got i've got 2 one that I posted in the chat is what if we acted as though we actually belong to the living world and each other that's up in the chat about half a 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:40.000 dozen up, and the other is a spin on buckies 100%. Give me a minute, and i'll find that this month. 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:48.000 What we've got here make the world make the world work for 100% of humanity and the shortest possible time. 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:53.000 3 spontaneous cooperation, without ecological offense or disadvantages of anyone. 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:58.000 Yeah, and the and the variation would be hang. Let me get it back up in front of my face. 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.000 Here. is to not say a 100%. humanity. 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.000 Say, 100% of humanity and all the beings with whom we share the living world. 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:15.000 Beautiful, which makes it long, but gets it what we're all say here, Great. Yeah. 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:18.000 Okay, So I So I think we're I think we're all aligned on this. 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:22.000 Does anybody feel out of alignment with this so we're? 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:31.000 We can restate all these positive we can we can work on our statements, but I think the the spirit and values that are being reflected. we're fairly aligned on. is there? 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:40.000 Is there any significant objections to now advancing towards how we start to pull this into reality? 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:51.000 Wendy. So what i'm thinking at the moment is that for growth is tension and change. 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:55.000 So there's something here and I don't know how we bring it in about. 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:05.000 So process of negotiating and holding all the differences that is part of well-being, and it's not a cake book. 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.000 So that's that is nature. Now has always you know things are going in. 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:16.000 Things are decaying, and and what looks like it's sometimes wrong with sometimes just the nature of nature. 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:22.000 And I I just hold that lightly I don't know how that appears that I want it to be negative. 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:31.000 But you know we do get. tsunamis we do get all sorts of things that that the world tries at us, and not every species last forever. 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:37.000 And there's something there about the tension from a well-being point of view is just holding this. 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:49.000 I guess March of life, and what it turns up to be over time in a way that's rich and not disabling, and it's not something you could easily put in there. 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:55.000 But i'm just saying that it's not something that we should forget, because it's not all what you call a bed of roses. 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.000 So is life and death and all of that. Yeah. great thanks. 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:09.000 Out of how things are. I started a note for general notes up here and just just captured that. So there's a process on that. 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:16.000 This Okay? great. So time. So i'm going to return to a very simple concrete example that's different. 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:31.000 But of a house. right? So So what we've just done is we've designed a a house for our family of humanity, and all being on earth to share in which we have all these positive statements of the basic things that we know 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:37.000 are required for life to flourish right we've we've centered into that that reality. 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:56.000 Okay, So and when we're trying to transform a space we have this notion of where we are or the current present state, and then the better and higher future state that we're transforming to right So when we just articulated that world 00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:08.000 in which What if every person was fed and had well-being, and had the opportunity to develop into their potential and flourish and blah blah blah, Then if we were to analyze the current forces and conditions and realities, on 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:15.000 work site, or then look square into the most brutal ones of those we would see that there's a massive gap, right? 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:23.000 That's not our current reality and so that sets up this chasm that's present in any of these human endeavors where we have to then grapple. 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:35.000 With. Okay, how are we going to transform this work site Earth from what it currently is towards this better, best and highest shared potential? 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:49.000 Okay, And then I think I want to honor gill statement by also saying that if we're going towards the best and highest intention and greatest good that we can articulate it's important not to make that too specific or it 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:54.000 gets dangerous because we're kind of concertizing the absolute So but we've created this field. 00:41:54.000 --> 00:42:02.000 Okay, So is everybody comfortable starting to, go into seeing if we can learn how to do a little bit of an uncomfortable process together. 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:10.000 There's no objections i'm gonna i'm in advance. 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:20.000 Okay, great. I want to highlight attention here which is There's going to be 2 types of thinkers in the room. 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:34.000 I'm some thinkers are gonna want to hold this highest intention and figure out how it how it all lows other people are going to be feeling stressed because it's too big and abstract and they're gonna 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:43.000 wanna pick one element like hunger or making sure everybody has enough food or making sure of it as well being, and dive into that. 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:55.000 So i'm gonna ask anybody who's kind of working on the bottom up basis, or wanting to dive into a specific thing just to kind of kind of hold that But let us just start at these highest levels and and to send down 00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:08.000 and and see what happens. i'm gonna also follow intuition here and take a little risk. 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:13.000 So, Milan, I can start practicing for our future capital session tomorrow. 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:31.000 And so if we were to define some of the key like roles or actors, or key different personas that will be impacted by this transition. 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:44.000 So we're transforming the entirety of earth from what it is to something else, and we were to start to look at some of these key roles or different personas that might be involved. 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:53.000 And i'm thinking things like government might be a persona business might be a persona. 00:43:53.000 --> 00:44:03.000 Individuals might be a persona, you know. plants and animals might be a persona. 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:10.000 What what other quick personas could we populate that We will want to look through their eyes to see this process with deal? 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.000 How many do you want, Jordan? cause we could do thousands? 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:23.000 Yeah, i'm thinking 10 big ones. Okay, just just the big buckets just to capture the lens. 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:46.000 Civil society, academics, water families and cities, air, soil. 00:44:46.000 --> 00:45:01.000 Food. 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:12.000 That's 10 anything big where we're missing here maybe cities for communities. 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.000 This is something about the level of I I say granularity. 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:25.000 You've got to be and like a little country town is a community for collections of community. 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:33.000 I was. I was recently looking at the map that had mounted 4.5 million basic communities under where people families. 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:40.000 Maybe there's you know there's a 1 billion families 4.5 million communities, fair water soil. 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:46.000 I'm gonna i'm gonna add one more that's that's a little bit related, i'm a through microbiome on there. 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:55.000 That's it. would the energy fall into one of those 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.000 I think I think we should add it for us. 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:07.000 Thank you, I think infrastructure yeah That's a good one, Jonathan. 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.000 I like that. Okay, Yeah. So we could, we could go in. We can go into depth. 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.000 And and but we're we're just we're just planning here. 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:24.000 Okay, So i'm gonna invite i'm gonna invite some people to embody these different sections. 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:38.000 If you're willing to i'm down to she to look at. So as we're engaging in this process, i'm going to go back to a very concrete building analogy, if we're if we're doing 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.000 this, and we're going to build the reservoir and we look at the people in the room. 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:53.000 Some of them are are electrical experts or instrumentation experts or structural experts or engineering experts or environmental experts. 00:46:53.000 --> 00:47:02.000 And so when you're in this room, you have this diversity of viewpoints, Okay, I'm gonna interrupt myself to big knowledge. V. 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:08.000 Since that's that's called this past and future generations great Vincent. 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.000 Okay, So you have this diversity of viewpoints, right? 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:19.000 And something kind of really interesting happens from that. And Neil and Keelu were singing me about about that this week. 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:29.000 So. Wendy, would you like to make a quick comment yeah, I'm just thinking of this in terms of if I say complexity systems. 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:41.000 That there's sort of 2 lenses here. we either look at all the objects at the end, or you just look for the interactions, and in the end the simpler path is to look for the interactions. 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:49.000 So because this all becomes not a no machine, it becomes very organic, and everything interacts after a while. 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:56.000 But there's different types of interactions so there's sort of like a people to living other living beans interest. 00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:06.000 If you like, 100%. Yeah, And what happens? is if you you look for the objects at the end, What happens is you end up saying, Well, what sort of government is that government? 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:17.000 And then there's a 1 billion types and what sort of individuals individual, and it's, you know, a 1 billion, you know, top you end up getting really messy. 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:22.000 So i'm trying to put us I guess save us some pain from complex systems point of view. 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:30.000 Quite often you can simplify the types of interactions like, you know, human to other non-human thing. 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:43.000 Living thing that makes sense and then you don't actually have to you end up not having to specify all the objects at the other. end, and and I know it's a flea. 00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:52.000 But he it's worth thinking about yeah thank you yeah so so there's okay. 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:58.000 This is an experiment right? we're gonna see how it goes and we're learning the limitations of our ability to think together. 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:14.000 So completely respect these differences. I completely respect that everything is, and we could look at it from a just pure energy perspective. i'm i'm trying to merge in streams of thought from building from intuitive systems 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:19.000 from constellations work just to kind of see if we can replicate something. 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:26.000 So let's go down the path. a little bit and we'll learn from it, and we'll do better next time, because we'll have lots of these to do Okay, so. 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:38.000 So drawing on constellations work and different things that that Mila and Kelu have been advocating for i'm gonna ask a few people to What Which of these? 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:47.000 Which of these key voices are critical voices? Our lenses are really critical, that we have someone looking for most of them. 00:49:47.000 --> 00:50:02.000 And is anybody feeling let's get some names on here So we could all try to look through all these lenses simultaneously, but it's difficult to do so if we assign people to look or representing the voice 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:07.000 or the spirit of these different things, we we might have something interesting unfold. 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.000 So if you guys are okay, i'd like to i'd like to practice that. 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:23.000 So is anybody feeling called or feeling like They could see through or speak from any of these particular lenses over the next. it's like occupying a persona in a game. 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:34.000 Jonathan simple society. Okay, So okay, so Jonathan would like to. It's good Jonathan, you're gonna just over the next period. 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:49.000 You're gonna try to really embody that intuition for what that is, and how it relates to things. And and in that relational way that Wendy was just looking at kind of take that months, anybody else feeling capable of looking 00:50:49.000 --> 00:51:00.000 through these lenses, or representing i'm happy to be air, water, soil, Maybe even the microbiome 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:10.000 We could they're different. but microbiome and microbiome are very closely related. 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:16.000 Actually. Thanks. Good. So ken from that lens, are you perspective? 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.000 Are you? Okay with Marianne, representing both of those. 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:36.000 Okay. Great thanks, Marianne. Who else has the ones to look through I'm Happy to represent families 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:44.000 I'll take past and future generations that was Wendy. yeah. 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:52.000 Sorry about that. was that Hank that said ken okay and age great. 00:51:52.000 --> 00:52:03.000 Thanks again, Jordan? This is kilo, Why didn't you assign me somewhere Keelu, Why don't you take energy 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:11.000 Joran i'll take business I was gonna that's Okay, that's the i'm trying to figure out where I fit. 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:19.000 So, junior. would you do, Judy? Would you be willing to take government and institutions? 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.000 I will have a lot more experience with institutions than government. 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:27.000 But sure. yeah, that's why I think you're experiencing large institutions. 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:32.000 But but you to look up through that lines it it's probably better actually than you know. 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:40.000 I was not a business person per say, I was a technical person in big business, so that's probably it's probably a better fit. 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:46.000 Great thanks. What do you mean by academy yeah . 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:52.000 Because because there's a port there's a part of me that sort of in touch with some of those professional association communities. 00:52:52.000 --> 00:53:11.000 But they yeah, I could universities. yeah okay wendy i'm thinking kind of the totality of university's research 00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:25.000 Vincent will do the atom Okay. great Then since then, since rolling with infrastructure. 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:36.000 Okay, What's very interesting is individuals and plants and animals are still on the table. 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:44.000 I'll go for individuals who who is that that just that's Michael. 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:51.000 You just put Thanks, Michael, you can hear you're perfect for that 00:53:51.000 --> 00:54:03.000 Who would like to? represent plants and animals 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:09.000 Okay, I will. I will speak on behalf of clients and animals. 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:14.000 Then, Okay, cool. So everybody kind of got their assignments. 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:39.000 Okay, So let's take so much of food maybe for us, forest in Communitiesalright, Pete, would you mind putting your systems to mind to communities. 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.000 No. 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:49.000 No is then you refuse or know you wouldn't mind no I don't mind. 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:53.000 Okay, so let's take let's take a couple of minutes of of silence. 00:54:53.000 --> 00:55:02.000 Here. we're about to get into looking at a a very complex system that is, none of these parts. 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:17.000 That is only the whole. and yet we can see all these different parts, and so let's let's take a minute of and kind of meditation. 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:29.000 How much try to slip ourselves into these roles and anybody who's listening that doesn't have a rule just you, and look from the whole. 00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.000 Do you mind maybe giving us Jordan What? 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:37.000 The next question, or task or frame will be so that I can. 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:41.000 I can start to bring that in. Yeah, So what the what? 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:57.000 The next task is for us, to be is gonna be to dive into this pull planning process, where we're trying to discern how the system transformed, and because it's a total interrelated thing we're gonna do that 00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:03.000 through seeing what happens if we each look at it through these different lenses. 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:07.000 So we're going to dive into the pull planning next, and so what what? 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.000 I'm hoping we can do here in the next couple of minutes? 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:16.000 Is everybody kind of lay down your own persona and if so i'm representing plants and animals. 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:33.000 So over the next 2 min i'm gonna try to slip myself into the persona or spirit, or lens that can speak on behalf of plants and animals, and feel and experience the world from that lens and holiday 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:36.000 relates everything. So i'm going to try to be thinking about 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:47.000 How I feel relative to Michael, who's representing business individuals or bill, who's representing business, but from the standpoint or spirit of plants and animals. 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:59.000 So let's take 2 min. of silence here just kind of try to feel into that perspective or lends that you're gonna look through for the next hour. 00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:29.000 So 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:03.000 It's kind of the classic walking in someone else's shoes, Metaphor. 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:09.000 What does it feel like? How do you empathize? How do you view the world through that? 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:16.000 Yeah. 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:46.000 Compassion and love over, who wants to flourish on someone who wants others to flourish 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:07.000 Alright. 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:18.000 Okay, beautiful. So just an hour to kind of introduce the process, to align on the shared vision and intention for our future. 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:26.000 That, I think is as everybody as is wanting to move towards. 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:34.000 And then we we invited ourselves to think through the different related things that are present in that full. 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:49.000 And now we're gonna drop into a working session when we're we're gonna try to think through from all those different conference of perspectives and relationships how the system transforms 00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:58.000 I got a suggestion from someone in the chat that before we do that we take another couple of minutes here. 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:13.000 And write down from the perspective of the persona You're representing 5 to 10 primary needs of the group you're representing. 01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:24.000 That would need to be met more fulfilled in order for that vision or attention that we share to manifest itself. 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:33.000 So this is gonna write from the perspective of business if we're gonna end up in this completely generated and realigned human system. 01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:38.000 What are 5 to 10 key needs that would need to be met. 01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:46.000 I have a organizational question on that if we're all creating lots of post-its. 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:55.000 But we're coming from the direction should we have a identifier that we use like a number or something. 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:59.000 Yeah, let's do that, thanks for that clarification let's just do that as notes to ourselves. 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:03.000 Let's not do that on the mirror board right now, Does that answer that for us? 01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:08.000 Let's just do that offline so I do I think we want. 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:38.000 I don't think we wanna necessarily make that visible what are 5, 10 key key needs 01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:51.000 How's everybody doing this? Anybody need I can and I saw you trained it to talk about your own. 01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:56.000 You did, sir. Sorry i'm writing in a different window Yeah, I just needed a minute. 01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:26.000 Thanks. Yeah, Let's take a couple more minutes 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:22.000 Okay, how's everybody doing 01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:33.000 Can, Boris. How are you doing good? Okay. 01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:43.000 Alright great. Okay. So now now we've each got our we've each got kind of our lenses that we're looking through 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:59.000 We're gonna start at this 50,000 but level and so what we're thinking of is what we're envisioning this transformation from where we press recently are you in 2022 and we're 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:10.000 fixing a time sometime out in the future alright or would you like to vision that 1020 years out where we're living in this different world. 01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:15.000 And again we're gonna we're gonna think backwards and try to envision. 01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:28.000 Okay? What? What was one of the last things that happened before that flourishing and abundant world in which every being had the opportunity to develop into the fullness of its potential and flourish? 01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:48.000 What happened right before that, and then happened before that and what happened before that we're just gonna try to backcast 5 big, significant milestones that mark the major, the major milestones along. 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:54.000 Those, and see if we can get anywhere anywhere near an agreement on what some of those might have been. 01:06:54.000 --> 01:07:11.000 So before we go into to that. let's take let's. just take another minute of silence, or so here. try to walk out to the future, and then just try to in your in your mind backcast, and see if you can see you know 01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:20.000 5 major milestones that we could celebrate. that would have marked the transformation between where we are and where we got to. 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:25.000 Those can be as big, as audacious, as impossible as they need to be. 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:39.000 Whatever needs to happen in order for us to get there. Jordan, I have a clarifying question, and that and that is, how do you see? 01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:47.000 Taking exponential change into effect because if we're talking about the whole planet. 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:59.000 The whole planet won't change in the light switch it'll actually have places that have already got the wholeness that's expanding. 01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:07.000 How do you? Where, where, how do? we friend that gotta just use your intuition Forest. 01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:14.000 So. So you've got a so I I understand so I guess how I would just respond to that quickly was maybe milestone. 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:24.000 2 out of 5 was that we had a certain number of prototypes or pockets of coherence that we're living it out that the world could see. 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:28.000 And then maybe there was some expansion of those pockets of coherence. 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.000 So that might be one way to think about how the system transformed. 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:41.000 And in response to another back channel message I just wanna say i'm on these 5 milestone, we're not gonna try to represent each of the different viewpoints here. 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:46.000 We're gonna just try to get 5 big ships right just like on a dam. 01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:50.000 I'm just gonna use a dam or a reservoir as an example. 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:59.000 What these things would look like, as we would say okay first we'd mobilized and assigned all the crews and contractors and teams. 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:11.000 There is maybe, a second milestone where we had reshaped the earth and cleaned out the entire foundation that the dam was going to be built on, and we would know What is that? 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.000 Maybe the third milestone is that all the earth was filled in? 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:28.000 That was another milestone we can see. maybe the fourth one. Was that all the electrical and instrumentation was completed, and then we filled the reservoir and said they're just the big overarching features of work 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:33.000 so looking at it from the overall perspective okay so let's just try this again. 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:38.000 I don't know if this is gonna work. But let's try it and see where we get okay. 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:52.000 So what what happened? What was one of the last, like significant breakthrough, visible milestones before this high, higher intention been manifest. But was one of the what happened right before? 01:09:52.000 --> 01:10:15.000 That does anybody have any have any thoughts or ideas and Let's just be creative and brainstorm, and then we'll merge that we learn to listen because you can use that for you know, listening to Nature listing to our 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:22.000 bodies. Okay, and some'm gonna wow that's an incredibly large buster. 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:27.000 It's you It goes across lots of types of transformation. 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:36.000 You listen to the rocks, you know. Okay, great so so wendy i'm going to honored that by putting 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:42.000 Oh, seminary, did it, Great thank you for whoever's working with me on that? that's super helpful wendy. 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.000 So wendy alfred i'm gonna ask you 01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:52.000 So We're starting at the back Then coming do you think that would happen like right at the end, before this intention came to reality. 01:10:52.000 --> 01:11:05.000 And i'm thinking when I see wendy i'm kind of moving it way this way, i'm thinking maybe that needs to happen really soon in order for another bunch of other things to be possible would you agree with that Yeah, I I 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:10.000 think i'm trying to think of verbs you know listening. 01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.000 You can easily share, and you can explore. 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:21.000 Yeah, Okay, beautiful. So we got listening up on the board as a potential milestone. 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:29.000 How about something like effective aliances toward the end? 01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:43.000 I mean we need to learn to do that but it's not going to be immediate. and and along with that is the process of those you know, generalization of alliances across multiple cultures. 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:51.000 Okay, great. So So wendy let's copy effective alliances, and then let's let's put another one before that. 01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:56.000 Judy spoke to the process that enables effective alliances. 01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:02.000 So but we could call that. Maybe the process of how we ally and federate, or something. 01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.000 How are we gonna phrase that? But that came before that. 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:23.000 Chen. Yeah, I wanna say, speaking from the standpoint of both past, present, and future generations, that one big change would be seventh generation, thinking the way it's actually met by the people who invented it which is not to think 100 and 01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:28.000 40 years in the future, but to recognize there are always 7 generations walking through time. 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:36.000 If you have a good life, you'll know your great grandparents, your grandparents, your parents, your siblings, your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren, therefore any time there's a decision, to 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:44.000 be taken. You make sure they're represent us from all of those generations present in the conversation. 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:50.000 Love that? Yeah, Thanks again. Where? where would you place that on the continuum from? 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:53.000 You know, 0 to 100. Where do you think intuitive? 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:58.000 We learn to really long term and multi-generationally like that. 01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:12.000 I hope it's coming soon like 2020%, or something like that 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:17.000 That becomes a worldwide phenomenon we recognize that there's one human family. 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:26.000 There's many tribes. there's one human race, and We need to really recognize that we've got to make it work for for all the generations. 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:38.000 Okay. Great i'm gonna make an adjustment to this to alright, Hey, Jonathan, could you take where you're writing? 01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:47.000 2062, and make that 100% instead of a date 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:55.000 Okay, great. So Because we don't know the time at which exponential phase change is gonna happen 01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:02.000 Let's think about this as a continuum from 0 to 100%, no matter how long it takes right some of us might think it's going to be 10 or 20 years. 01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:06.000 Some of us might think it's longer. but let's just kind of go 0 to 100%. 01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:13.000 So we've quite 7 generation thinking is something that needs to happen here pretty quickly along that continuum before. 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:24.000 Okay, let's get some other some other key milestones on the table. 01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:53.000 Centralized information and knowledge sources or connected ones and somehow we've got to get all this wisdom and actual solid science content, and other things in an aggregated mode of some kind accessible knowledge and do for that's that's also important from 01:14:53.000 --> 01:15:04.000 the perspective of Academy. So it's good to have a hold of a difference in there, because we need the difference as part of and the scale tiny to large great yup. 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:13.000 Okay. Great thanks, Wendy. Judy, Wh. Where on a scale of 0 to 100 does that kind of occurred? 01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:26.000 You think where we, towards the centralized and interoperable information and knowledge sharing a capability? 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:31.000 I I potentially tried to defeat a timeframe, but let's call it 10 to 20 years. 01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:36.000 But for the whole thing, or her segments of it, because I mean I. 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:40.000 Some of these things have been trying to happen for centuries and they're not there yet. 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:45.000 So what's going to take an epiphany of some sort to aggregate them? 01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:51.000 But yeah, I I put it kind of in the 2 and a half to 3 range. 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:57.000 Maybe if get to the endpoint, we need to do it soon or not later. 01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:02.000 I see part of this is affected some of those things do actually exist. 01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.000 They just don't exist in at they exist at a different scale. 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:09.000 So it's more about you know we've got a lot of those things. 01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:26.000 They're just not necessarily gathered if you like The issue, I see, is that it's sort of like. there are thousands or hundreds of thousands of aggregated knowledge content. 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:31.000 Areas, but they don't know the others exist and they don't talk to each other. 01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:33.000 Yeah. So i'm gonna i'm gonna invite us to. 01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:37.000 We've got that down i'm not sure who's on that posted. 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:50.000 I can't move it but i'm gonna i'd like to invite us to take that centralized accessible information and knowledge, and move it left towards in between learn to list and in seventh generation that's gotta happen pretty 01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.000 soon. Okay, Great. And then we'll get into detail on on how these things happen. 01:16:53.000 --> 01:17:00.000 So let's not worry too much about it what are other big milestones. 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:03.000 And again i'd encourage anybody who's capable of doing it, of thinking backwards. 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:15.000 I can go. so i'm i'm going from the perspective energy freezes, since we're terribly throws. 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:26.000 So we learn work to capture and generate. the humans learn work to capture and generate already available energy from natural sources that they could put in circular systems. 01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:41.000 Humans learn how not to waste energy, because one of the biggest issues around energy is, we consume, more than we produce or humans consume more than they produce, and they are not in the right relationship, not understanding. 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:55.000 So they. So the other milestone is humans, learns how to intentionally see, measure, gather, distribute, and use energy, and how to recreate energy circularly. 01:17:55.000 --> 01:18:16.000 If you will, you know, kind of from linear just consume and waste, and instead use, transform and generate as much as possible of just different types of transformations, understanding the nature of energy. in systems humans, also learned how they're dependent 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:32.000 there are an energy, and so understanding how to manage and manipulate themselves and others, and the whole world is energy opened up a completely different dimension of what became possible in inner exchange interbeing interflowing circularity of 01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:51.000 energetic movements. So from the disconnected linear race and consumption, it became this interconnectedness reflected in both material as well as you know, unseen, realms of the nature of energy Okay, so beautiful 01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:55.000 quilers. so i've i've created a posted here. 01:18:55.000 --> 01:19:00.000 We can move around, called under understanding energy and its types and flows. 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:07.000 And then, sometime after we did that, we learned how to capture, generate, and and serve in circular. 01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:15.000 And i'll add in that word circular self-generating, Okay, beautiful. 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:32.000 Okay, Great: So we have these these issues related to energy that obviously fuel all sorts of other systems 01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.000 Jordan. This is bill i'd like to . 01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:58.000 From the standpoint of business we need to recognize that society doesn't change, unless the influences in society are pushing in the right direction, or are encouraging in the right direction, and because most everybody of working age is working everybody is involved 01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:10.000 in some kind of an operation, except the independent professionals, where they have some kind of leadership and business. 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:28.000 Owners, managers director, are very influential in creating either a negative or positive culture and influences, and so to influence the world for change. we need to influence people and to influence people. 01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:49.000 We need to get their positive attention and you have business leaders focused on the right things and rewarding the right behavior is going to be tremendously influential in achieving any goals in this entire thing, because we're talking about this 01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:56.000 grand movement of humanity Here 01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:02.000 Okay, so that bill i'm we're trying to express these in terms of milestone. 01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:09.000 So so you you have a milestone that's something like at at some point we're influencing people at scale. 01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:16.000 I think you also spoke to the need to transform the incentives in order to create that influence. 01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:20.000 Is that correct? And then to create one more thing here. 01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:40.000 I also heard this issue of attention right so i'm just gonna create this milestone called attention slash influence at scale that leads to transforming incentives and influence etc. leading to this is 01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:52.000 cultural transformation. right? so. so down there we're getting towards this through line of transforming our way of being Jonathan. 01:21:52.000 --> 01:22:04.000 I wanna comes up for what Bill just said, basically sums up what civil society needs. 01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:13.000 And I would place distinguishing fact from opinion. 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:21.000 Encouraging trust for Db. behavior. I would place these early as we can possibly pull it off. 01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:29.000 It takes a while for that to percolate its way through a cat. 01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:41.000 Academy and education. so perhaps i'm over the optimistic that we can accomplish it early. 01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:51.000 But I think it's a like like bill is saying it's a pivot on which a lot of everything else will. 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.000 Okay. So we got. We got a node on encouraging. 01:22:54.000 --> 01:23:03.000 Trust we we have another one on differentiating or discerning factors. 01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:24.000 Opinion. Yeah, Yeah, statements rather than so, Wendy. Let's take this I think I also hear Jonathan advocating that this kind of whole cluster of 4 needs to move left 01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:30.000 substantially so we could kind of shift that left words a bit. 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:37.000 Okay, what happened? One of the one of the key features is that 01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:46.000 On behalf of plants. animals air water soil one of the things that's required is that they're clean and regenerating themselves. 01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:56.000 So i'm gonna put on one of these big milestones somewhere that we I don't wanna say this. 01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:12.000 I I think this is worth seeing in the negative. but we, you know, stopped poisoning slash, alluding air, water, soil more positively, husband. 01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:27.000 Our resources better. You know, in this case I really align with you, Jordan, that it needs to be stated kind of in this way because of the natural regenerative factor of life. 01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:34.000 If we get out of the way it will create that healing. 01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:42.000 And so if we stated in the positive as long as we're not losing what has to be eliminated. 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:51.000 Yeah, I think some of these are worth stating in the negative when it comes to the tactics because they're we say, let's be better stewards. 01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:55.000 That leaves room for a lot of 01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:05.000 Okay, So so is eliminate solution 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:12.000 Like eliminating pollution, is much like sooner than in 20 years. 01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:22.000 We have to start now to eliminate pollution. to give the regenerative capacity time to respond. 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:31.000 Okay, let's define. so? I think that's what i'm getting at with stopped poisoning or polluting the air water and soil. 01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:36.000 Is that? Why, what you mean by eliminating pollution like we stopped polluting the environment. 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:50.000 So the regenerative capacity could kick in yes, sooner, cause it's gonna take a long time to fix maybe 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:59.000 Sorry Judy Standard Positive maybe reduce talks human cause toxicity by 95% by X State. 01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:04.000 It's not gonna go away overnight again. there's a lot of in or shown the system. 01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:09.000 But and it's not just pollution there's so many different levels of toxicity. 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.000 So reduce you in toxicity by x percent, by by S. X. 01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:25.000 D. that's great thanks good and I guess this is gonna be for a lot of them. So i'm hoping this is a as a as a foundational question. 01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:32.000 Do we want to state things as in like not We don't we no longer want to add to it versus. 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:38.000 We want to remove from the entire ecosystem larger. 01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:42.000 You know, super system, the toxicity by 95%. 01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:50.000 Those are 2 very different things right so if we're reducing That means we're only contributing 5% of what we used to. 01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:59.000 If we're talking about removing all of that means we have also cleaned up areas, we have also transformed things that are talk currently toxic. 01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:07.000 So i've just throwing that. out. because I think that's an important question, and how we frame all of these things going forward, i'd say both are necessary Wendy. 01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:16.000 Yeah, I agree, definitely i'm just trying to make sure we're understanding what we're writing, and which part comes first or second, or whatever. 01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:23.000 I'm just i'm bringing it up for conversation yeah 01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:27.000 So for those people who were freezing the reduced human toxicity. 01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:46.000 Did you mean both? or the question, i'd be probably just switch reduced for removing, and does removing include reduce, and it would seem to me it does, I think removing is a a progressive process because you can't remove all 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:51.000 of it instantly. So there's a Lot of stuff that won't get removed forever. 01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:57.000 Chemicals are call forever chemicals cause they're there, and it's gonna take a really long time to get those out of the system. 01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:05.000 But we can reduce the amount we're putting into it as well as remediation efforts to clean stuff up super fun sites things like that. So it's a both. 01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:18.000 It's too prong strategy and both sides are are required That's why i'm sort of advocating for eliminate, because you have to eliminate first or your continuing to add while you're trying to 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:22.000 reduce yeah, we're we're a little caught in semantics here. 01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:29.000 But well, I don't think it's just spanish I think it's time because you know you we we can't. 01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:33.000 We can't instantly stop using internal combustion engines, for example, everything would just grind to a halt. 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:36.000 It would be terrible, you know. So we have to have a transition plan. 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:47.000 So as we're transitioning we need to reduce toxicity, we're putting in there clean things up and find cleaner, better ways of managing our energy in our time and our our ways of relating so all those things 01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:57.000 are required. i'm gonna i'm gonna put some that some 01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:02.000 Just to take a little stab at this It might be be helpful if we do something like this. 01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:07.000 It's a cheat, but we could say something like you know social environmental regeneration. 01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:22.000 25, you know, 50, 75% complete. That kind of contextualizes that totality of things that need to happen both to stop the harm and participate in the regenerative capacity. 01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:26.000 Hmm: Okay, So we're we should be noticing. 01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:46.000 Now who's contributed and who hasn't because There's some voices and some people not speaking as much, and some, you know individuals, For example, there'll be some ideas there as Michael said so who's on the 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:52.000 table so far. Yeah, i'll just add in the the soil, water, and Mike microbiome. 01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:59.000 So if we, if we are very close to the 20 years down the road 01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:12.000 The entirety of the work side earth we'll inherently know how to continuously create end of fragile systems, because we are inherently intelligent, inherently creative and being regenerative and operating in 01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:19.000 networks. So that's very close to where we wanna be okay? 01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:34.000 So let's let's create some milestone it creates the milestone that says kind of like right before this thing manifest. Did we got to a major milestone, or let's say 95 01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:45.000 percent of Marianne helping her systems regenerative and outlined, or something. 01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:49.000 Yeah, I want to use the word end to fragile because i'm reading that book which is such an awesome word. 01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:53.000 Nature's inheritance and fragile right? 01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:56.000 So I don't know if that's okay so so great. 01:30:56.000 --> 01:31:00.000 This is great example of of this backwards thinking. so Marianne said. 01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:09.000 Right before there, around the world. We understood how to create these regenerative, anti fragile, aligned systems. 01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:17.000 And And so when we say, okay, you know, we reach the 95% kind of tipping point that speaks to Okay, along here from 0 to 100. 01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:27.000 There was some progressive transportation of systems from exploited out of alignment to anti fragile regenerative and alignment, etc. 01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:33.000 So I like that i'm gonna risk a 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:48.000 I'm gonna wha What about like what about governments and legislation, or something like what what was there anything we can see in our minds that happened at some point that was like a major milestone where there was some kind 01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:55.000 of a 01:31:55.000 --> 01:32:02.000 Well, if we could get agreement to participate in the Un. 01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:09.000 Sdgs in a more uniform way sooner. 01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:15.000 That would be part of what would allow people to then pursue the right research, to learn how to do it. 01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:22.000 In the in the developed countries, and consider how to provide resources to less developed countries. 01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:29.000 But it's pretty snarky so So what do we? 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:37.000 Wanna So I like that as a measurable milestone somewhere along here, like before human talks, toity was reduced by 95%. 01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:47.000 We had to have seen something happen where half of the governments and corporations of the world, or something like that jointly committed to something right. 01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:59.000 There's some big milestone. moment that I think we're kind of pointing there to aggressively eliminate and reduce super polluters. 01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:13.000 I mean it's known what some of the most polluting industries, practices, and so forth, are the cost benefit Hasn't been made to the companies to really mobilize them to do something about it. 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:21.000 They won't till they're threatened with being shut down i'm sorry. 01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:31.000 Go ahead to get to your government governing question from the end from a community needs perspective. 01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:41.000 I've got decision processes. better. like we've We've finally figured out how to how to make big collective decisions, what to do and what not to do. Hmm. 01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:53.000 I know there's something about accepting the decisions that you don't necessarily agree with so holding difference. 01:33:53.000 --> 01:34:18.000 So the decisions that hold difference. Okay. great. So so somewhere, so somewhere, really soon, I guess, Pete, i'm thinking just to figure it out how we're gonna make kind of decision navigation, governance type processes a growing tipping point 01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:23.000 of people are engaged in Okay, great, We We got some energy going there. 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:27.000 Okay, Michael. 01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:34.000 Yeah, i'm i'm apologized for not being in a great place to contribute as much as I should. 01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:47.000 But I wanted to share some of some of the thoughts regarding individuals which obviously greatly overlap everything that you know. 01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:57.000 It's like individuals. I was I was sort of bucketing 5 groups of needs states. 01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:09.000 Goals. you know things that are important, one being survival, air, water, food. 01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:22.000 Then love belonging family friendship, then safety, security, equality, and justice. 01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:47.000 Then assembly, movement, association, travel and communication, thinking, learning, freedom of thought, and all of those I can break down still further. 01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:55.000 Those are kind of 50,000 foot views of of things that are important that overlap all the other categories. 01:35:55.000 --> 01:36:09.000 It seems like so i'll i'll keep working on that one to to speak up because I had been unable to speak for a while there. 01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:20.000 Okay, I'm Michael, are you are you on the road are you in a place where you can write where where I can. 01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:28.000 What sorry, where you can write i'm now at a place where I can write. 01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:35.000 Okay, we would. You might kind of so so those were really well thought out, and I don't think we're able to capture it in stride. 01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:40.000 Would you mind dropping those into the chat? I will. thanks, Michael. 01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:56.000 I I wanted to I threw in another high level bullet point here in response to something Kilo put in, which is that before we get X percent of governments, institutions, corporations committed to a plan with funding in place 01:36:56.000 --> 01:37:01.000 to accomplish it. There had to be this shift in consciousness or paradigm. 01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:17.000 Where humanity understands the moment in as history it's interconnectedness, and then we shipped from a suicide pack of exploiting each other to a massive positive good staying so that's gonna unfold in 01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:23.000 like this tipping point and so i'm just gonna suggest there's a milestone where it would get you know. 01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:28.000 I don't know 10% or something of 2 kind of operating in this new way. 01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:38.000 That's enough of a political force that shifts Okay, Jonathan 01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:45.000 So, because, our society has a lot of uncivil aspects. 01:37:45.000 --> 01:38:09.000 That trace their roots to education. A lot of what I think is has to happen is somehow showing people that benevolence, trustworthy behavior, reasoning and things like that. 01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:16.000 Or valuable to the individual. They work for the individual as well as for the global. 01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:22.000 Yeah, beautiful, So jonathan i'm gonna encompass that i'm gonna add to this note here on this tipping point. 01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:34.000 Strategy is shift in consciousness or paradigm shift in values that would include all those key things you're speaking to. And we could imagine we could imagine that that shift in consciousness is unfolding on a 01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:40.000 tipping point, you know, from 0 to 3% to 10% to pulling the middle. 01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:57.000 So I think there's good intuition for that how that flows and then that about the 50 or 60% mark, I think, would be a great goal to guarantee everyone their basic needs that's impossible. 01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:07.000 Right now, but I think we could build towards that, and that that would also help eliminate a lot of crime. 01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:23.000 A lot of jokes So i'm gonna i'm gonna throw that out here somewhere and say basic human needs for all. 01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:32.000 Thank you. Breeze I hear expression 01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:43.000 Satisfied that Jonathan encourages people to not commit crime. 01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:49.000 Yeah, yeah reduced is attractiveness of crime that's why T. 01:39:49.000 --> 01:40:01.000 And sush crime. Great? Okay, of course. hmm yeah it's so not sure where to put this 01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:22.000 But essentially I think it's right around the tipping point area, and that would be that life is directly speaking to us, and the way life is going to directly speak to us is via sensors and our ability to understand what the messages 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:38.000 are that are coming from the vibrations of life in all of its spectrum, being interpreted through artificial intelligence in a transparent way, so that the artificial intelligence becomes an anonymic nervous 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:51.000 system of the planet in that way, then humans will naturally, I believe, move because life is creative and regenerative and intelligent. 01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:59.000 And so with information, then quality decisions will be made in the movement will be much more rapid. 01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:10.000 Hmm: Yeah, i'm gonna i'm gonna quickly add in So so what forced to speaking to is that within? 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:21.000 Let's say, 2 to 3 years our allies will develop the ability using these web 3 to have sensors kind of around the world that are giving us real time feedback on the health. 01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:30.000 And well-being living system. that a combination of human intelligence and Ai can interpret. 01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:38.000 And then forest I i'm gonna add in here something about a 01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:49.000 I don't know computer models that can make visible the 01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:54.000 Appways implications into the future, you know. Thank you. 01:41:54.000 --> 01:42:00.000 To me it is a combination of 2 factors. 01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:12.000 It is transparency because that's what this is doing is basically making the voice of nature transparent, which is currently not visible to us in many ways. 01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:25.000 And it's also empowering agency meaning the source of that. If it's a human source, the source of that data is controlled by the source. 01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:30.000 Maker. Yeah. So that's where I I was trying to put my piece in. 01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:37.000 So humans said, Human sense and networks and noticing what's going on as well as the senses. 01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:53.000 We actually need the human now, like because that will give you details that we will be noticed, or that there aren't sensors for, and that those are actually fitting towards well-being, because the stories we want to tell ourselves, new stories 01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:57.000 So we need to be noticing what the the collective story is. 01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:11.000 If well-being is one of your aims is that i'm noticing, and i'm noticed it, and One is information. the other one is an input to human well-being that you've noticed 01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:29.000 yourself in noticing you actually start to grow as a person, so it helps with a lot of other things, because we then have the capacity you to be not rational actors, but at least more coherent actors, so something about becoming 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:44.000 coherent actors as senses in the system yes, i'm going to add that yeah, that's becoming close. 01:43:44.000 --> 01:44:02.000 Hear it sensors and actors and the system Okay, we got We Wendy and Judy and then I'm having trouble getting things integrated from the text Kilo and Bill had some dreads going that I'd. 01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:14.000 like to pull in at first yeah sorry i'm I'm having hard time taking notes and thinking about my my the the voice I'm supposed to be representing at the same time. 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:33.000 So I think one thing we're missing like Well, first I want to echo what Michael added, and he's thinking about individuals, and i'm representing families and communities I believe so it's almost like the 01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:42.000 it's a cross-section because they need to benefit from the systems working better together. 01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:48.000 So one thing that might be missing. A lot of the pieces have already fallen in. 01:44:48.000 --> 01:45:17.000 One thing that my team missing is creating feedback loops for expressing unmet needs and elements of you know, or and moments for celebration 01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:31.000 So that kind of man, maybe that could be headed by like creating deeper connections 01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:34.000 So for me. it's hard to frame it I'm sorry. 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:43.000 Just one more thought wendy it's hard to frame it just for in my for me it's hard to frame it just family, because I feel like that's so. 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:48.000 Such such an important thing for everything. So i'm having a hard time. 01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:55.000 Yeah, don't don't worry right now, we're just working on high level framing through our different lenses, so don't worry about framing. 01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:58.000 Just feel free to frame it all. So I want to capture what you said. 01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:05.000 Feedback loops for i'll put it so I can put it in. 01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:12.000 So yeah, it was for on met needs to moments of celebration. 01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:17.000 Okay, perfect. i've got that if you want to modify it it's right under scalable and still some generate. 01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:22.000 But yeah, exactly so. we're gonna need to yeah be able to listen. 01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:32.000 So before, just just on that subject to feedback loops you go down the whole path of cybernetics, and such. 01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:41.000 It's much better with the experience of these things to keep it not while there has to be feedback. 01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:47.000 The narrative is actually feedback, and it's important not to have it x and causal, you know. 01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:52.000 So x came from y, but more an ecology of things that happen together. 01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:58.000 So feedback goes down a very specific path which is probably not quite the right word. 01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:08.000 It's about the relationship. yeah so we'll We'll get in the details on how we do all this. we're just trying to get get the milestones. 01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:13.000 Right now. ken. thanks. thanks so much for for being here in between your calls. 01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:20.000 Could I take a minute just to invite any any pieces or gaps, or anything that you'd like to get on the board on your way out? 01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:38.000 If you're still here I think this is a really great start, there's a lot of stuff that could go on here. I would encourage people to check out the World business Council for sustainable development their vision 20 over 50 new roadmap for 01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:43.000 business. Really, it's exactly what you're talking about here? they go through and start with. 01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:50.000 How do we get to a sustainable world by 2,050, and work backwards decade by decade in 9 separate areas, including 01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:54.000 What's their energy and buildings and transportation and all that. 01:47:54.000 --> 01:48:07.000 So it's really worth looking at. because it's it's very like, only done my friend Bob Horn was the visual synthesizer on that and I just wanna say there there's one thing that's 01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:14.000 kind of at the back of my consciousness that's that's niggling that we'll let go which is power needs to be addressed here. 01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:26.000 There are people who enormous amounts of power and incredible egocentricity who are not at all interested in what we're talking about, and they represent genuine challenges to this. 01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:29.000 So that also has to be figured out. How do we? 01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:39.000 How do we go up against you know the the large defense contractors and the big energy companies who are you know they're riding high. 01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:45.000 They they see no need to change they're making billions of dollars, and so it's just I don't know how to do it. 01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:57.000 I don't know myself, but I know that it's there it's something that very few who will take take on as a How are we going to handle this? and until we figure out how that happens. Those kind of billing influences are going 01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:07.000 to be very, very difficult to overcome as we work on this project So it's It's just something that needs to be, you know, looked at and confronted and and brainstormed on it. 01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:15.000 How are we gonna how we can handle this great thanks again. Georgia Bellen was picking me about Bob Corn, too. 01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:18.000 So it'd be great as maybe a month or 2 from now. 01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:30.000 Once we've done some more of this synthesize kind of pulled in the stuff the World business Council did to to circle up with them, and can revisitize things in a way. 01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:34.000 That can unite the networks a little bit so thanks for bringing that back in as well. 01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:38.000 And i've really enjoyed everybody's contribution here. it's been been awesome to meet some new folks. 01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:45.000 And see what's going on here so thank you all and wish you a great rest of your day, and I got a on another call in 3 min. here. 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.000 So i'm gonna go have a great day in thanks. you, too, . 01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:58.000 All right, Judy. 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:05.000 Alright sorry for judy you're on mute 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:23.000 Did I get unmuted click on it there's a dimension of capacity for human change that has to precede institutional change until humans start looking at the world differently, and believe they have individually the 01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:32.000 capacity to change themselves, and the things that they interface with we can't have institutional change. 01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:47.000 So there's a human enablement piece that I see is quite important, and it's very the people who believe they can affect change have already been inulcated in that by family socialist but that's a pretty small 01:50:47.000 --> 01:51:06.000 percentage of the population that really feels they can influence change a lot of population feels they can't even influence minor changes that have their personal survivability, let alone address issues like where the water is coming from and with powers, coming 01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:10.000 from, and how you connect with people in other parts of the world and all those things. 01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:17.000 So there's a there's a change change capacity change agent role, change process. 01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:31.000 Is it? It underlies all of this, and cuts across every sector 01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:35.000 Great I judy i'm adding that to this second nature. 01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:46.000 Note we have on this tipping point of consciousness in paradigm that includes both the shift of values, the understanding of interface connectedness, and that restoration of agency. 01:51:46.000 --> 01:52:02.000 And then There's also obviously the technology and process to connect rising agents to 01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:06.000 So I'm having trouble, cause the the notes are getting crowded. 01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:11.000 But Wendy m. Would you mind just dropping a note in there? 01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:15.000 Somewhere along that unfolding, tipping point of consciousness. 01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:28.000 Kind of the technology platforms and process to empower that agency 01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:35.000 I think that helps. but i'm trying to get at the almost indigenous culture level of change. 01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:40.000 If people don't individual agency. they don't feel, then they have family agency. 01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:52.000 Then they don't have community or neighborhood agency and i'm concerned about the large portion of the population that feels an absence of agency. 01:52:52.000 --> 01:53:11.000 Yeah I understood yeah, they're they're Yes, Okay, So i'm gonna I'm gonna take a minute to make sure we just capture these right here in parallel this share the restoration of agency and 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:17.000 There's a yeah. So we could we could design a program around that, Judy right? 01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:24.000 A program around a chipping point and consciousness rooted in some kind of experience that includes the waking to our agency. 01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:36.000 And then the connection to the tools and resources that then equip and empower people to move into small groups and teams do check that, transform their their local communities. their families. 01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:42.000 Okay, okay. So So we got that on the board. 01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:47.000 Do. Is that complete enough for you to come back to it a little bit, Judy? 01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:54.000 Sure keila 01:53:54.000 --> 01:54:03.000 Thank you. so i'm i'm going towards human self skills which will really help effectuate the shifts. 01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:12.000 These sort of tipping point types of shift. So one is talking about human emotionality, and, like the dilemma, keeps talking about the hygiene, emotional hygiene kind of like the brush teeth except 01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:29.000 that if we were to be able to take equally good care of our emotional health, it would be able to engage well with each other, and with a world from a place that is peaceful, belonging, healthy, not ill as opposed to right 01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:45.000 Now, where there's a lot of crisis in drama and there are, there are skills and technologies to that that as people engage that way they become different as they become different than the shift happens because they become viscerally different once 01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:50.000 they deal with the emotional garbage and triggers, and all of that. 01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:54.000 And then the other part is also the value of intuition and learning. 01:54:54.000 --> 01:55:10.000 The skills and technologies because it's not just whoa it. There are skills, technologies, very practical uses that can be honed, that everybody has some capacity for. 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:17.000 And once people learn that there is a completely different relationship with life as well as relationship with possibility as well. 01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:22.000 The relationship with agency empowerment, an interconnection between people. 01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:29.000 So those songs opening to this soft aspects of humanity both from the healing of what's you know? 01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:49.000 Broken and messy and horrific, and therefore creates a lot of the dysfunction in the world as well as just the empowered use of those skills and technologies which are inherently latently present in humanity but 01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:58.000 not very well. use not very much use 01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:02.000 Thanks. Cuteo tried to capture that Jonathan That was excellent. 01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:07.000 As to Judy and Keelu and Wendy. 01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:23.000 I propose that one of our very first steps be to create a way that it tracks a lot of kids these days to a fun way to learn these new ways of thinking. 01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:44.000 Managing emotion. something, something like a a game comes to my mind you've heard me say this a lot, but because it attracts people who part ready for joining the institutions. 01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:49.000 And those institutions aren't ready to help them anyway. 01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:56.000 Yup Okay, great. So a way to track and empower kids families you know It's something that's a that's a lighter way. 01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:15.000 We're completely aligned there thank you something about responsible it's it's I don't want it to be harsh, but something about being out to it's like a pre step for agency 01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:24.000 is like the you could have agency it's like an awakening, so I guess the gamification is like a pre-step for that. 01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:37.000 But this acceptance of responsibility for the Miss and that has to happen at every level. Yeah, great. 01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:44.000 I'm gonna add to this note here, on restoration of agency, I I and responsibility. 01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:55.000 So I I really understand what You're saying that the the sense of responsibility and agency kind of moved together is that is actually kind of what you're reflecting, Lindy. 01:57:55.000 --> 01:58:06.000 Yeah, First of all, there's 2 flips on that one is it. you know this this move from my's not my fault to everything is my fault. 01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:16.000 Yeah, and everything. My fault feels good, too, far but if you say everything is my fault, and if you follow say some of the Hawaiian traditions and Achilla would have a lot to add here it's the saying 01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:19.000 i'm part of i'm part of the stuff of everything. 01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:38.000 And therefore it is actually you know my responsibility the fact that we're in. and the miss if that makes sense yeah, if you walk, yeah, cheap part of that change in consciousness is beautiful, okay, Let's: go, to Bill And then 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:50.000 I wanna I wanna take a take a pause and bill if you could Back in some of those things that were blowing in there the chat that I wasn't able to get on the board. 01:58:50.000 --> 01:59:00.000 Okay, there are so many interactive and complex variables and many of these things we're talking about. 01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:09.000 So i'm gonna throw some things out there as hopefully not excessively generalization kind of based. 01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:13.000 I think the families and individuals benefit the most when they're needed. 01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:20.000 Things are being met practically, and their life and work is purposeful. 01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:26.000 And this is the natural desires to be purposely connected to my own. 01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:45.000 Inner admissions go strength skills who I really am, and believe that it makes a difference, and to connect with other people who I can encourage in their strengths, and skills and ambitions. and they affirm mine and in the process our our needs, are met and our 01:59:45.000 --> 01:59:53.000 work is productive for us. and this brings up this idea of work. 01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:58.000 There are those who say the so called great resignation. 01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:07.000 This trend towards uninterest in career is a product of the laziness of millennials and Gen. 02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:22.000 Z people and i'm sure everything's a factor right But I think for the most part there is some agreement by those who analyze it deeply that there is a dissatisfaction with the world the way it is and 02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:28.000 there's a sense of a desire for purpose that isn't found in much work today. 02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:34.000 I'm Well, i'm not gonna get into all the criticisms that could be levied. 02:00:34.000 --> 02:00:40.000 But I think that's a factor if businesses and here's the punchline. 02:00:40.000 --> 02:01:01.000 If business is provided a sufficiently meaningful place for people to work, and met their net needs well, and gave their skills an opportunity and their diverse viewpoints and lives to contribute meaningfully to something that they really believed in then not 02:01:01.000 --> 02:01:10.000 only would that produce a tipping point change, but it also would provide a competitive market for us against the companies. 02:01:10.000 --> 02:01:17.000 That accumulate power and tend to repress the world they're gonna those companies are fine. 02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:28.000 It's just hard to get workers these days all the baby Boomers are retired, but they're with their corporate wisdom, and we can't get young people to come work for us in the department of resource 02:01:28.000 --> 02:01:32.000 exploitation and personal oppression. you know we need recruits in that department. 02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:45.000 Well, they won't get them so I think that this idea of creating an alternative form of business that provides meaning and and good sustenance. 02:01:45.000 --> 02:01:55.000 It. It kind of brings to my long ago, during we saw dling effect in the entire society and people they they. 02:01:55.000 --> 02:02:01.000 And then one last thing people have connections at work and they think, hey? I have this team at work. 02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:04.000 It's like a bowling it it's like the Bowling Club. 02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:15.000 But when they're fired they don't have that anymore, there's not real it's a sham community. but monitor gone his real community, and I think if work was different. 02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:28.000 It wouldn't create an artificial acquaintance community that dissolves as soon as someone leaves you wouldn't have people having to leave the same way, because we believe in a sustainable business model and a and a community 02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:35.000 connection. So I think it's all connected in that way Okay, Bill. 02:02:35.000 --> 02:02:50.000 So just a few bullet points to capture that you know families and individuals needs being that meaningful work relationships liberation from meaningless work out of a necessary supply collaboration of these alternative business models real etc. 02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:52.000 So we'll capture that we'll kind of place it 02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:58.000 But yeah, that liberation from less meaningful work into more meaningful work also. 02:02:58.000 --> 02:03:03.000 Yeah, Okay. So so let's let's zoom out a little bit. 02:03:03.000 --> 02:03:11.000 Let's zoom out a little bit we've got Some of us have, you know, a little bit of time left here maybe 50 min. 02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:18.000 So let's take a pause and a and a minute of silence, and let's observe what's happening here. 02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:25.000 Let's observe What's Happening and kind of reset and see where to go from. 02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:35.000 Here just invite a couple of minutes to close your eyes, and just center. Just read a little bit together. 02:03:35.000 --> 02:04:05.000 Kind of reset. let's try to send what's happening here Most constructed way to spend the next period of time 02:05:26.000 --> 02:05:38.000 Beautiful all right. So let's just pause in let's take a few minutes and just reflect on on the process. 02:05:38.000 --> 02:05:53.000 Here what's happening, and how we can the best use of the remaining time? like I said, I haven't tried this before with kind of diversity of perspective so and different professional backgrounds and all that So you can get a sense of what's 02:05:53.000 --> 02:06:00.000 happening, I think. but i'll i'll maybe be quiet time. just a couple of us with our cameras on right now. 02:06:00.000 --> 02:06:03.000 How are you doing? What do you think is happening? 02:06:03.000 --> 02:06:10.000 I i'm I think we should put those in sticky Still, what's happening is that's gonna happen more? 02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:22.000 I think We're making there you do some working as a group but it's a coherent group in emergence where something is emerging through us. 02:06:22.000 --> 02:06:34.000 We're all kind of drinking from the same source but honoring our individuality, and whatever strands we bring, and that's a process through skillful use. 02:06:34.000 --> 02:06:45.000 So this process of emergence by bringing us, into the space where we're not vomiting what we know, and coming from the place of this is what I know from the past, and this is what has to be. But instead. 02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:49.000 We're in this generative field because I don't know what's going to happen next. 02:06:49.000 --> 02:06:54.000 But I can feel words emerging from and so can others on the call. 02:06:54.000 --> 02:07:07.000 I think that's 1 point and i'm very excited about that because I can see the future very much shifting through that way of engaging at work, and in the world, and then the other part is how much is available, and how 02:07:07.000 --> 02:07:27.000 abundantly. there is available energy, insight, wisdom, different forms of training, different kinds of diverse background gifts that we are bringing, that get liberated in this way, where we give this space and permission to to engage in emergency in that 02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:51.000 way if there's an abundance that is under appreciated and underrecognized, and i'm expecting experiencing it here, and it's really yummy 02:07:51.000 --> 02:08:03.000 We also have a perspective on where we are sure so Oh, I'm. 02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:10.000 In i'm in 2 places hold on 02:08:10.000 --> 02:08:19.000 That didn't work for me. but now I could hear so it's interesting, you know. 02:08:19.000 --> 02:08:34.000 One of the things. it's just a risen it is wondering what is the real purpose, or outcome of what would be. 02:08:34.000 --> 02:08:41.000 And I think that for me the it's happening at many levels It's happening partly on the level. 02:08:41.000 --> 02:08:49.000 That? certainly. Klu was just speaking to which is really a human person level emergence. 02:08:49.000 --> 02:09:14.000 What's happening with the another level is almost feels like that there is a intentional seriousness of the whole experiment to see about actually pulling in real information that you know would become acted upon. 02:09:14.000 --> 02:09:20.000 And if that's the desired person of the group that's a different per user. 02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:27.000 Then the purple of the group, one in an experiment getting tighter understanding or thinking, and all of that. 02:09:27.000 --> 02:09:45.000 So if it's, it's if it's the purpose to get serious outcome out of this then it would seem to me what Ken suggested, and what we know exists out in the world you see tremendously deep 02:09:45.000 --> 02:10:09.000 robust thinking already, and mapping already that has occurred over a lot of time by a lot of really smart folks, and it would seem to me that what might be lacking is a survey and a clarity around what might be able to 02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:20.000 be taken right off the shelf and go through a very similar kind of process, and just turn around and say, Hey, wow! 02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:33.000 You know again it's, it's that principle that turns around and says, whatever our impulse is, that we want to create, has it already been created? 02:10:33.000 --> 02:10:42.000 And and and where do we go with that so that's just kind of what it was there? 02:10:42.000 --> 02:10:52.000 And then to follow. That how do we take what we're coming up with and merge with other things that already are covering a lot of it. 02:10:52.000 --> 02:11:08.000 That's really hard. We done just to respond with to that for 30 s, as I, as i've looked at those frameworks for us, I didn't find really the path from where we you you you can find the big layout 02:11:08.000 --> 02:11:16.000 of what needs to happen across energy systems or regenerative bag are kind of the big, overarching things fine. 02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:24.000 When I look at the field of what we just populated around the deep new ones of human systems and and kind of consciousness and the restoration of agency. 02:11:24.000 --> 02:11:31.000 And some of those things I think we're forward for forming a really rich shared understanding of of kind of the core movement. 02:11:31.000 --> 02:11:38.000 And then, when we layer in what the world business council did right, those will, those will illuminate like all the big pathways. 02:11:38.000 --> 02:11:44.000 And I think what we're illuminating here is some of the stuff stuff that I was a little bit unable to find in some of those framework. 02:11:44.000 --> 02:11:48.000 So I agree with what you're saying what i'm envisioning is over next. 02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:56.000 Let's say, 30 days flush these kind of things out of the working groups, and the network of 100 or so people, or whatever that is. 02:11:56.000 --> 02:12:08.000 That's kind of moving with us so we're all aligned. and if we can kind of get that, and then layer in those other big pieces, I could see you know very short time down the road than having a fully actionable 02:12:08.000 --> 02:12:19.000 plan that not only has validation from those big thinking groups, but that you know, 100 of us can see exactly how we can get there from where we are today, right through those steps into the larger scale. 02:12:19.000 --> 02:12:28.000 So really want to honor and and agree with you that that'll be a key Step is then synthesizing all those larger frameworks in. 02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:31.000 So I I see it's kind of bridging Vincent. 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:53.000 Oh, sorry, one little piece on that is that when you speak of working groups, then it may be that one of those important work groups might be to a identify which of those should be reached out to have a path of to reach out 02:12:53.000 --> 02:13:00.000 to actually invite a representative that actually knows that work exceptionally. 02:13:00.000 --> 02:13:09.000 Well to join a working group of synthesis, you know, certain way. 02:13:09.000 --> 02:13:21.000 Not that the similar? To what way back, when, 40 years ago, they tried to do with the natural step they did do as a really way of where do we find agreement across all of this? 02:13:21.000 --> 02:13:30.000 That's actionable okay, great but let's if someone if someone's still in Miro i'm gonna stay present here. 02:13:30.000 --> 02:13:41.000 But if someone's in mirror and we could add a post it for this working group that would reach out and identify the other frameworks and ontologies that have done this and then kind of guide that synthesis 02:13:41.000 --> 02:13:46.000 process, but that you know somewhere soon in the next 6 months. 02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:55.000 Then soon done. Thank you. So I just want to offer a brief reflection. 02:13:55.000 --> 02:14:10.000 From up until where we are so far today. During this meeting I like the emergence of what came out of like those different perspectives as well as the different milestones. 02:14:10.000 --> 02:14:28.000 I wish that This process was made more clear so coming into the meeting. I thought that we were gonna be doing more of a project management figuring out what's gonna be done in the next 6 weeks. 02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:40.000 And if I knew we were going to host a sort of interactive brainstorm session to map out the goals of the entire world, I probably would have came prepared in some way, both mentally. 02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:50.000 But also I wonder if we could spend time you know preparing before meeting, so we don't start from a blank mirror board. 02:14:50.000 --> 02:14:56.000 There's so much work that has been done both that everyone here, including myself, knows of that. 02:14:56.000 --> 02:15:04.000 I don't think we have the time to pull it into this process 02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:09.000 And so I don't know if that was the intention was to get what was on the top of our minds. 02:15:09.000 --> 02:15:21.000 But I find the need for having you know like a second brain where I store this stuff because it gets so complex that it's not gonna all come up in a meeting unless I am prepared in some ways. 02:15:21.000 --> 02:15:36.000 So So yeah, that that's just my reflection. and and I wonder to model that what what the process would be like for the rest of this meeting to get towards like that six-week plan or is that even the 02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:40.000 intention for the meeting today. So that way we can kind of yeah Jordan. 02:15:40.000 --> 02:15:51.000 Even that would be that's where that that was where my intuition was gonna take us for our next was to say, Okay, we've got enough of this field. 02:15:51.000 --> 02:16:00.000 We can vary it up to other things then to to dive in, and kind of look at the next 6 6 to 12 weeks, so i'm happy to go there. 02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:05.000 The group feels that's right that we have half an hour, and then I think that would be a good a good place to go. 02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:12.000 Thanks, Vincent, appreciate those observations 02:16:12.000 --> 02:16:18.000 Okay, any other kind of top of mind thoughts. I think we need to do cycles of what? 02:16:18.000 --> 02:16:21.000 Just, Vincent just said, because I think what happens with emergencies. 02:16:21.000 --> 02:16:31.000 Once you start bringing some of the other resources and some of the voices that were sort of less present in the room when we talked out, you know, 1011, 12. 02:16:31.000 --> 02:16:43.000 The sinus. you probably need a couple of cycles of richening and noticing and moving things sort of left and right a little bit, and not just believe that you've done it. 02:16:43.000 --> 02:16:50.000 One. so it's not just a single cycle and also there's something about connecting some of those up. 02:16:50.000 --> 02:17:05.000 Well, so you know we may be out of I think it's a little bit, but there may be some things that really shouldn't be taken off, and we need to be but 2 what we just need to work on how harder to language it 02:17:05.000 --> 02:17:11.000 better rather than just say, Oh, look that Doesn't apply this is the better one. 02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:15.000 Thanks. wendy Yeah, where I think we'll get just done this ongoing iteration. 02:17:15.000 --> 02:17:20.000 We're we're getting the broad controversy of a plan that's hard for us to understand what we're working on. 02:17:20.000 --> 02:17:28.000 So we're trying to invite our intuitions to look at this biggest picture and see the pieces that would happen to move Vincent, on the six-week plan. 02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:39.000 The reason that i'm starting with this broader picture is because if everybody's not oriented to what we're doing, then it's hard to know if we're going to do the next 6 weeks so that was 02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:45.000 kind of the purpose to start from there backwards. plan. Then we can take a slot of that and go okay based on what's immediately at hand. 02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:51.000 What could be accomplished over the next 6 weeks and Then we'll get into quick iterative cycles and then i'm also envisioning. 02:17:51.000 --> 02:18:04.000 Taking these other frameworks. like. once you've developed like the ones, whatever that World Business Council and those will start to form a critical path project schedule, and and then we'll be able to see how We're, moving along that 02:18:04.000 --> 02:18:11.000 and Wendy, that'll get iterated you know every couple of weeks at least monthly. So that keeps moving. Marianne. 02:18:11.000 --> 02:18:23.000 Yeah, I just wanted to make a note that a lot of the stuff that was in the chat not get reflected in the board kind of building on what Vincent and Forest was saying. 02:18:23.000 --> 02:18:33.000 You know there is so much not there. but you know it's the first draft, and I think it was great that you just made us jump into the defense. 02:18:33.000 --> 02:18:42.000 Okay. great So if we were to their last 30 or so minutes here, 02:18:42.000 --> 02:18:45.000 Would you guys be willing to dive into a look at the next 6 weeks with me? 02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:52.000 And kind of see what's immediately at hand and how these different pieces feel, and then 02:18:52.000 --> 02:19:00.000 So that would be one thing. So how does that feel as a use of our our next 30 min to try to get concrete on the next 6 weeks? 02:19:00.000 --> 02:19:07.000 Anybody get significantly object to that? Okay, Great. And then 02:19:07.000 --> 02:19:15.000 I agree with marry on what you just said there there's a lot there in the chat, and a lot of processing of what we did get on the board? 02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:26.000 Would there be a couple of people that would be willing to schedule a time to work with me on kind of sorting out, both going through the chat and then sorting out the the board a little bit to get a better intuition and kind 02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:29.000 of tying that back into whatever we talked with for that next 6 weeks. 02:19:29.000 --> 02:19:36.000 Is anybody interested in that lift actually can I just ask for a Moment's pause. 02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:39.000 My brain is : booing out my ears. 02:19:39.000 --> 02:19:49.000 Yeah, And so the questions you're asking are like not So if we could just take a pause for a second. 02:19:49.000 --> 02:19:58.000 So the first just to consider the first question light of all that's gone on the board, and the nice reflection? So your first question was, Does it make sense? 02:19:58.000 --> 02:20:07.000 Does it feel right for the next 30 min to move into a what feels most alive for us to accomplish in the next 6 weeks? 02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:14.000 Was that right? Okay, Can we just take a breath? Just absorb the question and kind of see I need. 02:20:14.000 --> 02:20:19.000 I need a minute to see what emerges just in response to that. 02:20:19.000 --> 02:20:49.000 Thanks. Yeah, , 02:20:58.000 --> 02:21:06.000 So I have a thought I like what we did relative to okay let's dream big, right. 02:21:06.000 --> 02:21:21.000 Let's dream this whole thing is done and then pull back from there the pieces that we would need to have as our stepping stones to get from where we are to where we need to go. 02:21:21.000 --> 02:21:26.000 What I would love. What feel really great from my perspective is to use time either. 02:21:26.000 --> 02:21:43.000 Now or in the next session to say what's most alive for people in the meeting that they're already working on rather than looking at the board, and saying what seems most important on the board, which for me would be much more of 02:21:43.000 --> 02:21:57.000 an intellectual exercise, and instead, say what's already happening where is there already movement, whereas there already action and I know i'm guessing, Jordan, you know where a lot of those pieces are but i'm guessing to that a lot of the people in 02:21:57.000 --> 02:22:02.000 the room. don't see the fuller picture it might be nice to share with each other. 02:22:02.000 --> 02:22:14.000 This is what i'm working on and this is how I think it could relate to Meta Project. so that we're almost doing the opposite Here's what's currently alive here's where we're going okay which things Now. 02:22:14.000 --> 02:22:21.000 are starting to reach towards each other already, that, with just a little more effort or a little more energy, would just go. 02:22:21.000 --> 02:22:37.000 Check would just connect them, because I think the connections are happening already, and I would rather make this a heart-centered, meaningful, purposeful exercise, instead of an intellectual exercise 02:22:37.000 --> 02:22:43.000 Thank you, Wendy 02:22:43.000 --> 02:22:50.000 I agree with wendy but I also feel We didn't finish this map, and we the ground the ground. We didn't do the ground. 02:22:50.000 --> 02:22:59.000 That's what we need to do next. So it feels like we need to take the next level down from the 5,000 to say, Okay, this is the next step to do all that. 02:22:59.000 --> 02:23:07.000 So that will help. But again, when you're totally agree we we should be linking with what's going on and energy that's already moving. 02:23:07.000 --> 02:23:13.000 Yeah, Okay, great. So So we just had expression of the 2 things and I think it's a 100% of both. 02:23:13.000 --> 02:23:16.000 So, Marianne, What I heard to express is in my mind. 02:23:16.000 --> 02:23:28.000 We got maybe just down to, you know we kind of did the 50,000 foot level, but we didn't really clarify it so we can do that and we maybe got down to about the 30,000 square foot level, and we didn't 02:23:28.000 --> 02:23:31.000 get any anywhere close right, but I I think we got 02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:37.000 So my second my second question. When do you have room for my second question? 02:23:37.000 --> 02:23:48.000 So my second question was, if a couple of people would have energy to help me process that board asynchronously, and try to kind of clarify and place everything out 02:23:48.000 --> 02:23:59.000 And then, once we have a clean slate, I think, coming out of that, our goal would get B to get like a clear 30,000 foot level, and then we could schedule a session to drive the near term like next quarter down to ground would 02:23:59.000 --> 02:24:03.000 be kind of my suggestion, Marion, so that would give us that view. 02:24:03.000 --> 02:24:12.000 And then if we match that up with what wendy's saying on Okay, and what are the streams of energy that are already present and emerging, then then we probably see how those met up. 02:24:12.000 --> 02:24:27.000 So how how does does that approach sound? Okay, to accomplish both sides of the kind of strategic and emergent together 02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:38.000 Judy, I see you talking on mute 02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:45.000 I think we probably could do some of that now, but I think we need a homework assignment Queen. 02:24:45.000 --> 02:24:53.000 Now in the next meeting, in the sense of the the complexity and depth with which this needs to be considered on multiple dimensions. 02:24:53.000 --> 02:25:10.000 And I think another question I have that i'd like us? to address next week is, How do we reach to the agency that is already, in effect, so that we're not creating from ground level things that perhaps exist already in other. 02:25:10.000 --> 02:25:32.000 venues that could be partnered to address. We need to think a bit, I think, about the mechanics, of how we connect the growing structure and the connectivity of other people to these initiatives and thoughts 02:25:32.000 --> 02:25:47.000 Wendy and wendy my thought is that we as a community quote I don't wanna use the word should icon something at the sort of low level of granularity. 02:25:47.000 --> 02:26:03.000 That's just a little experiment to our willingness to actually do something at a personal level, because I think it's it's really good that we're working at you know an upper level and trying to land up for other people but there's nothing 02:26:03.000 --> 02:26:13.000 like trying to change yourself at the same time your you're attempting to alter a situation in which other people might change something about. 02:26:13.000 --> 02:26:29.000 I'm going to do x a commitment. piece it comes back to self action and if you can't do that, then there's a problem of the first order there. 02:26:29.000 --> 02:26:32.000 Okay, So so wendy i'm gonna accept that homework 02:26:32.000 --> 02:26:38.000 And I think I think we can get there, maybe by. So I. 02:26:38.000 --> 02:26:52.000 So I think if we combine some of these streams, if we if we finish this kind of strategic approach, and and can kind of see what what could be done over the next 6 12 weeks, if we then look at the emergence, streams, of 02:26:52.000 --> 02:26:56.000 energy. Then we'll have a really good lay of the land over the next 6 weeks, and then maybe we can get there by next week. 02:26:56.000 --> 02:27:02.000 Wendy, and then I think that would be a really good idea to to look at what you're saying and go. 02:27:02.000 --> 02:27:05.000 Okay, What? What are the little things that each of us can engage and commit to? 02:27:05.000 --> 02:27:09.000 And how do those stacked up? And you know, How do we? 02:27:09.000 --> 02:27:11.000 So does does that sound? Okay, kind of complete the framework. 02:27:11.000 --> 02:27:19.000 And then maybe next week, or or so we'll get there I think, yeah, it's about self change as much as anything else. 02:27:19.000 --> 02:27:31.000 Yeah, So i'm choosing something, whether it's on on everybody else's board or not. 02:27:31.000 --> 02:27:42.000 So it's about self responsibility in relationships beautiful thanks Sandy 20 M. 02:27:42.000 --> 02:27:46.000 I've lost my train of thought so I think i'll just put my hand down. 02:27:46.000 --> 02:28:03.000 Thank you. 02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:14.000 Okay, you beautiful. So let's okay so Jordan. 02:28:14.000 --> 02:28:24.000 I guess this is really directed for you and I. if the a lot of the things people are saying are already incorporated in the flow that I put together on the master flow board. 02:28:24.000 --> 02:28:37.000 So, including the commitment piece that wendy Alpha was just talking about bringing in other resources that people were talking about working to create partnerships. if partnerships are necessary in order to activate or enable 02:28:37.000 --> 02:28:40.000 something. So i'm just throwing that out to the room too. 02:28:40.000 --> 02:28:47.000 I'm doing my best when I come away from these meetings part of the reason why my head explodes is not really because what's happening in the meeting? 02:28:47.000 --> 02:28:56.000 It's because of all the connections my brain is trying to make to all the things, all the flows and things that I'm putting together in order to be of service to the group. 02:28:56.000 --> 02:29:07.000 So when the timing is right, there might be a nice time to share some of those pieces, so that other people feel like these concepts are captured, and that we're not feeling like we're losing threads. 02:29:07.000 --> 02:29:18.000 If they don't get keep getting spoken into the room i'm trying my best to capture them and put them down, so that when we get to the right moment in time they will resurface and we can trust that they will 02:29:18.000 --> 02:29:26.000 resurface, and not get lost so i'm just throwing that in there as a as a parallel piece. 02:29:26.000 --> 02:29:33.000 Great. Thank you, Wendy. thank you. wendy Yeah, I think i'd love to take kind of what surface today. 02:29:33.000 --> 02:29:42.000 I agree with you that I think we've reflected most of the logic and and we can use it as a little mirror. 02:29:42.000 --> 02:29:55.000 Maybe making adjustments, and then, when we present this back, we could present both kind of the cleaned up forward at the 30,000 foot level, and the process flow that'll help eliminate how people get progressively integrated and moved 02:29:55.000 --> 02:30:05.000 into agency in action, so those 2 pieces will probably eliminate illuminate a LotJonathan had his hand up for a little while before. 02:30:05.000 --> 02:30:12.000 I don't know if he's yeah thanks. 02:30:12.000 --> 02:30:33.000 Each of us has a passion, and I see this group as eager to gather that passionate energy and help integrate it into the whole. 02:30:33.000 --> 02:30:41.000 And I I find that a bewildering process. 02:30:41.000 --> 02:30:47.000 I? What am I trying to say? I think this is great. 02:30:47.000 --> 02:30:54.000 I think that wendy mcclain's suggestion that we identify the piece we want to work on. 02:30:54.000 --> 02:31:07.000 I'm eager to see that happen 02:31:07.000 --> 02:31:15.000 So let's let's take wendy's suggestion, and Jonathan i'm i'm sensing. 02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:29.000 I think we I think that was I I wanna say thank you for running through that experiment and orienting and kind of, and kind of learning this process, and I think when we clear up the board and present it back it it will 02:31:29.000 --> 02:31:41.000 be useful. and orienting and I also know it's a lot to dive into this, so so we can just kind of relax. let's go to the board and stop doing what we were doing and let's pick up 02:31:41.000 --> 02:32:11.000 on Wendy and jonathan's thread now, let's take sorry I need to do a shared screen There 02:32:16.000 --> 02:32:29.000 Okay, So let's kind of so we all kind of have a feel for this, and I feel like there is a fairly 02:32:29.000 --> 02:32:35.000 I'm an intuition for how this will move which is great and Wendy, I think. 02:32:35.000 --> 02:32:43.000 Yeah, I think it'll be really illuminating to connect this up to the flow, and the actual process for integration and the starting that river. 02:32:43.000 --> 02:32:51.000 And then I also wanna just want to get and speak to for a statement that there's been a lot of work done at like international levels on the big system. stuff. 02:32:51.000 --> 02:32:57.000 So this kind of all will float together. I think so so let's pick up on Wendy. 02:32:57.000 --> 02:33:08.000 And jonathan's statement to go to kind of passion, and what's alive because it'll be be less less energy draining here. 02:33:08.000 --> 02:33:11.000 So let's take let's take 10 min here and just highlight. 02:33:11.000 --> 02:33:22.000 Anything that's particularly of live or anybody or that's kind of emerging that kind of immediately over the next 6 weeks. 02:33:22.000 --> 02:33:28.000 You'd feel like might somehow tie in or they'd lead to some of these pieces. 02:33:28.000 --> 02:33:40.000 And we'll just see getting anything on the board and then Vincent. Maybe i'm thinking maybe next week we'll dive into the kind of planning of the next steps based on based on this deep dive and 02:33:40.000 --> 02:33:45.000 take a closer look at the next 6 weeks. Okay, so so Wendy, can. 02:33:45.000 --> 02:33:56.000 I can I invite you to to just share share a little bit more about the threads that are emergent for you, that you, your scene could advance some of this that? 02:33:56.000 --> 02:34:05.000 We've been talking about a little bit 02:34:05.000 --> 02:34:13.000 Yeah. yes. So for me to relate it to the pull exercise with. 02:34:13.000 --> 02:34:18.000 Take me a few minutes of silence to figure out the best way to do that. 02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:24.000 So you want to go to someone else first that's fine or otherwise. 02:34:24.000 --> 02:34:32.000 Yeah. So i'm i'm gonna share a couple just a couple things, Wendy, you're saying some people might not. 02:34:32.000 --> 02:34:40.000 No! but so so we have opportunity to launch in partnership with the with the Un. 02:34:40.000 --> 02:34:46.000 And future capital funds and contests around the Sdgs. 02:34:46.000 --> 02:34:56.000 Immediately at hand. So so that's a really fun opportunity that I think will create stories that will help start to fuel engagement. 02:34:56.000 --> 02:35:01.000 And we so, for instance, if some of these these things are out there. 02:35:01.000 --> 02:35:06.000 If some of these things up here on the board and we're not sure how to do them. 02:35:06.000 --> 02:35:13.000 But we know they're critical for steps to to starting the whole movement and shift. 02:35:13.000 --> 02:35:27.000 One thing we could do is is, we have clear opportunity to be able to articulate that, and set up contests or other things that would draw the best ideas from around the world that then could be kind of progressively implemented quarter by 02:35:27.000 --> 02:35:33.000 quarter, so that's one emerging threat of energy that's a really high opportunity. 02:35:33.000 --> 02:35:43.000 To throw down. Another thing is a percentage of those flows. 02:35:43.000 --> 02:35:47.000 To infrastructure. so we've been we've had a lot of work happening. 02:35:47.000 --> 02:35:56.000 Particularly in this group, with infrastructure builders, so that been working to lay out tools in advance of all this stuff being required. 02:35:56.000 --> 02:36:09.000 So we have a pretty significant opportunity, I I hope, over the next 90 days to activate funding stream to fuel that infrastructure which is a really exciting, emerging energy flow that could change some things 02:36:09.000 --> 02:36:17.000 So those are just maybe a couple a couple of things i'm gonna throw on this board . 02:36:17.000 --> 02:36:31.000 I'm gonna throw on this board peak plus Jordan plus lf c plus future capital interest in markets. 02:36:31.000 --> 02:36:52.000 Is it? So if we if we imagine all this emerging energy it's going to need to get matched up in marketplaces, and we've we've got several places where energy is really 02:36:52.000 --> 02:36:57.000 Yeah, I see, I see increasing potential for partnerships. Right? 02:36:57.000 --> 02:37:11.000 So what's emerging behind the scenes is a is a recognition of how many people are interconnected by one degree a separation. 02:37:11.000 --> 02:37:19.000 And I think there's gonna be increased opportunity to capitalize on those inter relationships. 02:37:19.000 --> 02:37:37.000 So an example. Graham, boyd is newly aware in my in my mind just today is a even though i'm not sure he's ever attended any of these meetings, but quite a few people in this group know him 02:37:37.000 --> 02:37:54.000 know his work, have direct connection to him, and is, it seems like an integral piece that then extends out and could help draw together some of the pieces here for more immediate activation, because of the trust and connections that are already 02:37:54.000 --> 02:38:14.000 established. So that's what I to me that's like a low hanging fruit kind of thing, so that would you know that piece of it which is the governance and financial piece then draws in the technical piece the 02:38:14.000 --> 02:38:26.000 connection piece so and to me that's very big right so I don't know if that's making sense to other people, and i'm happy to describe it more detail but partnerships. 02:38:26.000 --> 02:38:38.000 I would say as the overarching for that 02:38:38.000 --> 02:38:48.000 Another one is choosing areas of focus. I think one of the things that we've been tripping over a bit as a group is not having an area of focus. 02:38:48.000 --> 02:39:07.000 And while I think that's been smart up into this point as we focus on how we want to be together, how we form trust with each other, and how we do process, I think it's time start moving towards action, and picking 02:39:07.000 --> 02:39:11.000 areas of focus will help us practice acting on things together. 02:39:11.000 --> 02:39:19.000 I see Meta project being a place in an organization's not the right word, but a a Co. 02:39:19.000 --> 02:39:29.000 Call collection of people that are trying to advance collective action together towards moving any piece down down the line. Right? 02:39:29.000 --> 02:39:36.000 So it's not very well said yet. but if If we're focused on a process for collaborative action. 02:39:36.000 --> 02:39:47.000 Then picking areas of focus will help us get better at that process of acting collaboratively together, which requires all the pieces in play. 02:39:47.000 --> 02:39:59.000 So I'm: looking to improve that process by starting to pick areas of focus, and that goes back to the first one, which is the areas that are most alive for people. 02:39:59.000 --> 02:40:15.000 The things that are in greatest motion should be, in my opinion, our first areas of focus, because just improving the collaborative action piece is going to be hard enough, and we should capitalize on the areas with the most momentum and the most energy 02:40:15.000 --> 02:40:26.000 in order to practice the other pieces 02:40:26.000 --> 02:40:49.000 I see a parallel, a pack, 2 parallel thrust coming together, one being person to person, connections, relationships, partnerships, self-actualization, community, actualization becoming better versions of ourselves. 02:40:49.000 --> 02:41:04.000 All of that piece, the person to person piece in evolving in parallel with technological advancement in support of the person to person. 02:41:04.000 --> 02:41:18.000 So i'm seeing those developing in parallel and starting to meet now. And so that's another kind of big, huge thrust that is beginning to happen. that is activating all this wonderful stuff. 02:41:18.000 --> 02:41:27.000 I feel like we've been talking about today. but I keep seeing them in those 2 main like huge threads huge pipes. 02:41:27.000 --> 02:41:38.000 Okay. see other hands raised. i'll be quiet Jonathan and kilo wendy's Point and others as well. 02:41:38.000 --> 02:41:51.000 The idea of collaborating, I think, is gonna ask each of us to learn some new skills. 02:41:51.000 --> 02:42:00.000 One of them could be and correcting other people's ideas to be developed. 02:42:00.000 --> 02:42:08.000 That's an emerging skill I see us learning together. 02:42:08.000 --> 02:42:38.000 Sorry, stupid phone. So education skills acquisition there's some important. Well, how do you say existing training? that would help us hold up great thanks, Jonathan Caleb: I thank you everyone. 02:42:39.000 --> 02:42:56.000 And of course, always love what everyone's saying and very much want to put a big exclamation mark behind both Wendy said in terms of following the momentum. and that is I don't think I can emphasize enough 02:42:56.000 --> 02:43:11.000 from sort of my perspective, and maybe training both as innovation under and that's a very particular kind of training where we look at momentum. and then you experience that and you make funding decisions around that as well as someone with some intuitive and 02:43:11.000 --> 02:43:19.000 soft skills and those types of trainings around what it means to human and different ways, different cultures. 02:43:19.000 --> 02:43:30.000 And there is this notion of grabbing energy worries that now maybe we don't have enough skill to grab energy from the wind or grab energy from the water, or do things that Shamans do. 02:43:30.000 --> 02:43:38.000 But we can recognize where there is momentum, and almost do the equivalent of grabbing energy of that. 02:43:38.000 --> 02:43:53.000 And it is actually a particular it's a technology and this skill set. and it's not that hard to develop It has more to do with how you see and knowing what to look at than anything else. And so if we notice what's 02:43:53.000 --> 02:44:02.000 alive, and where there's momentum we have so much more I don't know how to say it in non abstract terms. 02:44:02.000 --> 02:44:04.000 I mean a shortcut abstractly would be. 02:44:04.000 --> 02:44:22.000 We have a lot of help if I wanted to say less abstractly, we're just more likely to succeed and find resources in ourselves and around us, and probably many of us have had that experience. 02:44:22.000 --> 02:44:31.000 But you can use it as a tool as a practical tool, not just something that you talk about. 02:44:31.000 --> 02:44:36.000 Great thanks. Cuba 02:44:36.000 --> 02:44:42.000 Great thanks. Cuba 02:44:42.000 --> 02:44:47.000 Judy. 02:44:47.000 --> 02:44:55.000 Just on mute i'm still sitting here thinking about what we can do as individuals. 02:44:55.000 --> 02:45:11.000 What we can do as what is now Meta in its current existence, and what the potential is to connect to groups that are somewhere in the actualization timeline of already working on these things. 02:45:11.000 --> 02:45:26.000 Because I think all of these big issues do have many people around the world working on them and identifying what our role is, or how Meda can facilitate the flow of information or the connection of those actions. 02:45:26.000 --> 02:45:34.000 To enable growing of action in many areas, you know. 02:45:34.000 --> 02:45:43.000 Do we want to focus on growing the individual action through technology enablement that lets people connect and then do their thing wherever they are? 02:45:43.000 --> 02:45:53.000 That certainly wants but there's also the recognition that wisdom is ongoing, and it's development in other existing entities. 02:45:53.000 --> 02:46:11.000 And we could find that we're not keeping pace with the change in wisdom, in important areas, unless we have a mechanism to do that 02:46:11.000 --> 02:46:22.000 Okay, beautiful. Okay, good. So so to to kind of zoom out, we were able to 02:46:22.000 --> 02:46:25.000 We were able to copper a lot of grounded in. 02:46:25.000 --> 02:46:35.000 Thank you. I keep losing this but we were able to kind of we're able to see zoom out and and take the big view. 02:46:35.000 --> 02:46:46.000 We were able to spend 10 min kind of looking at those emergent nodes, and I think there's a good intuition for how this match up we have, like Wendy pointed out a lot of exciting partnerships and things 02:46:46.000 --> 02:46:52.000 converging right at hand that'll change what's possible definitely through transforming the size of the network. 02:46:52.000 --> 02:47:02.000 And the the people engage so anyway. thank you guys so much so let's go to a quick retro in our last 5 min. 02:47:02.000 --> 02:47:13.000 Here Alright, That's enough to yeah i'd love to get some, some feedback, and some learning on, and how that went, and how we can do better. 02:47:13.000 --> 02:47:21.000 So let's do okay. yeah ke though go ahead I noticed that Pete didn't speak a lot, and unfortunately he left. 02:47:21.000 --> 02:47:27.000 But i'd love to know how this was for people who didn't speak a lot. 02:47:27.000 --> 02:47:39.000 Yeah. 02:47:39.000 --> 02:47:47.000 Wonder that difficulties when their screen share is that at any given time I can only see the few people who are participating the most. 02:47:47.000 --> 02:47:53.000 Sit down. that's something that I need to figure out just sort of. 02:47:53.000 --> 02:47:58.000 I think you could actually have someone who took that role. I mean. 02:47:58.000 --> 02:48:08.000 I I attempted to do it once but I couldn't see who was talking more to sense. There was some of the views that were missing, and perhaps my own a little as well. 02:48:08.000 --> 02:48:26.000 So there's something about being in a role and dedicating and convening yourself to that role And then, having other people noticing for you what you're not able to notice for yourself Yeah, way to deal with that that works really 02:48:26.000 --> 02:48:30.000 Well, planetary care is doing rounds because every knows i'll be asked all the time. 02:48:30.000 --> 02:48:48.000 So just have to make sure they're short not long but just doing round because everybody gets but to answer your question so much i'm absorbing. 02:48:48.000 --> 02:48:56.000 I'm just taking it all, and drinking and drinking I I couldn't even quite catch everything in the chat is so whilming. 02:48:56.000 --> 02:49:00.000 But I love it it's really challenging if you're trying to watch the mirror board. 02:49:00.000 --> 02:49:05.000 And the chat it's it's almost like you need 2 screens which can't this particular workstation. 02:49:05.000 --> 02:49:17.000 I don't have I find the difference between the 2 screens is is really key as well. 02:49:17.000 --> 02:49:36.000 Having that, you know, I I think the point that venture brought up was a really good point of learning relative to this type of experience which is framing and really providing clear framing I had a time. 02:49:36.000 --> 02:49:49.000 Of knowing where that is. And so that because the framing goes into match created expectations, if there are any that come in 02:49:49.000 --> 02:49:54.000 The other thing that I really appreciated. Jordan, was you pausing after? 02:49:54.000 --> 02:50:13.000 There was a lot of post posters on that, and spending the good amount of time for the rounds for reflection of the process there, and that felt like any very rich and fertile opportunity to bring out the pieces 02:50:13.000 --> 02:50:19.000 of the iteration 02:50:19.000 --> 02:50:27.000 So so we've got 3 min. here let's let's do 2 quick sixty-second waterfalls just to just to close out. 02:50:27.000 --> 02:50:41.000 So first one, let's drop into the chat just anything that particularly worked well, or was was energizing or effective today on the first question, and then the second one will be what we can do better. So let's just focus on this 02:50:41.000 --> 02:51:11.000 first one. what we're 12 a day what was energizing 02:51:47.000 --> 02:51:58.000 Alright, and whenever you're ready let's go ahead and water fathers 02:51:58.000 --> 02:52:05.000 Okay, and then last waterfall Question: What can we improve on next time? 02:52:05.000 --> 02:52:09.000 Can we do better in the future, or anything that felt frustrating? 02:52:09.000 --> 02:52:16.000 Or tee energizing, I guess let's frame it positively based up, based on anything that was de energizing. 02:52:16.000 --> 02:52:46.000 What could we do better in the future 02:53:24.000 --> 02:53:28.000 Alright as we approach 3 o'clock here whenever you're ready. 02:53:28.000 --> 02:53:37.000 Go ahead and drop those 10 02:53:37.000 --> 02:53:45.000 Beautiful. 02:53:45.000 --> 02:53:56.000 Thank you all really, really appreciate it, which is great. This is a good hard process, and I love being able to roll up our sleeves and do the work. 02:53:56.000 --> 02:54:07.000 And I hope that over the next few weeks as we turn some of these working things into artifacts and shared understanding, and move towards a little bit more structure. 02:54:07.000 --> 02:54:15.000 Some of these questions on what we're doing you know in each cycle. and why and why it's the right thing, and how the energy notes are meeting will make a lot more sense. 02:54:15.000 --> 02:54:23.000 So, anyway. Thank you. Such profound gratitude rich session, so much to mine in the chat. And i'm just really grateful. 02:54:23.000 --> 02:54:29.000 Thank you guys for being here and once again. I know I'm repeating myself that I'm hopefully, speaking on behalf of Mayos. 02:54:29.000 --> 02:54:40.000 Thank you, Jordan, for holding this, and for experimenting, and for the skill and the mastery and the heart. 02:54:40.000 --> 02:54:48.000 You because we're all we're all bringing it the way we're bringing it because you know again, you're leading it this way, and we're becoming stronger as each other. 02:54:48.000 --> 02:54:57.000 But I think it's also encompassing us to really appreciate what the difference you make. 02:54:57.000 --> 02:55:05.000 Thanks everyone. alright. echo marianne's post to good luck tomorrow. 02:55:05.000 --> 02:55:21.000 Yeah, yeah, thank you tomorrow. it'll be kind of a different process but yeah, we'll we'll learn how to do all this and get better and better.